M+ is toxic. You don’t need to do the content to know that, experiencing the toxcity when there are heaps of threads, videos, reddit posts, etc - all of which go on and on about it.
I go back to my statement before - I don’t need to read any bodice rippers to know they’re full of socially acceptable smut.
Everything is “toxic”.
The problem is “toxic” has been misused so much that it has lost its meaning.
Getting declined because someone has a higher ilvl than you -toxic.
Getting decline because someone has a higher score than you - toxic.
Not getting invited because the dps pool is massive - toxic.
Having to sit in queue for a long time - toxic.
Having to make your own group - toxic.
Someone got mad because you were failing mechanics - toxic.
When the reality is, people have no idea what “toxic” really is. The vast majority of m+ groups do not say a word. People ditching keys mid run is also uncommon.
The thing is common though is being stuck in the dps queue. But that’s not because of “toxicity”, thats because of the MASSIVE dps pool and people grabbing who is better.
Formulated mostly by people who don’t participate in said content.
If you want to argue against the overuse of a word, then sure but that isn’t a Blizzard issue to solve. That ship literally sailed when literally adopted the meaning of figuratively (and likely sooner).
Again, participation isn’t necessary when things have a widespread negative reputation.
Its necessary to formulate an objective opinion of the thing.
Its like someone saying they don’t like a certain vegetable even though they’ve never tasted it or tried it in their life.
They avoid it because of what someone else said.
Ive known people with this same mindset on m+ until I finally convinced them to “eat their vegetables”, and now that’s the main thing they consume.
So sure, you can have opinions on a thing, but until you’ve experienced it. You don’t know and are parroting what other people say.
You would still run lonewolf.
There isn’t a single fight where you would run one wolf in pve.
You have no clue what you’re talking about.
No, it isn’t.
I don’t mythic raid, but I know that I wouldn’t enjoy it. It has more mechanics, and requires extensive prep to be fully prepared for each pull, treating the experience more like a job than a fun challenge.
I don’t need to go to a gaming convention to know that it’d reek of unwashed gamer stank, and constantly being hit on by people who have no concept of personal space.
I mean to be fair…… hunter players lost ranged survival… so they stopped playing that much ( I used to be one) and then now marksmen loses the pet ( gains an eagle but idc much for that) so bm is all thats left, so I’m just gonna stick to my druid/priest instead. 
I understand why their mad.
That’s completely different than claiming not do it because its a super negative environment.
That’s like saying you wouldn’t like m+ because of the timer or affixes.
You didn’t claim the ENVIRONMENT as a whole is bad.
You wouldn’t like it because of very specific things.
Its the same reason I don’t do rated pvp or really bg anymore. Too much cc, too much self healing for some classes, over all balancing is atrocious.
Notice how neither of us talked about the people or painted it as toxic.
Big difference in feedback and how the opinion is being shared.
I was giving an example that refuted the claim that experience was necessary to pass judgement.
Anyone can pass judgement on whatever they want, for whatever reason. You should gather information before doing so if you want a correct judgement, but such information can come from other sources other than actually doing it. Again, Mythic+ has a horrible reputation (as does WoW in general for its community, beaten only by COD and LOL lobbies).
The mythic+ pug community is a toxic cesspool. If someone insists in partaking, be prepared to be called names, accused of something you never did, or to be outright rejected for groups because you don’t meta the ‘flavour of the month’ meta that people try to follow.
I will word it so feeble minded dwarf like you can understand. Back in bfa any st boss fight that head many mechanics where you would move almost constantly having a pet out would mean pet stays on boss 100% up time, with that buff from lone wolf was a dps loss. Do you understand?
So what you are telling me is the majority of the keys you can this season. You were belittled, people claimed you did things or didn’t help?
Im calling shenanigans.
I was over 1500 week 1 when all the “try hards” were flooding keys and I experienced none of this.
Even when I was running 20-22s in SL and DF.
The most people talk is to call interrupts, hero, and maybe ccs.
You are talking to the wrong person. Ive run thousands of keys since legion. Got pretty much every ksm. Pushed 20s. Tanked.
The only thing I can’t speak on is healing. Ive only done a handful of healing keys. But for the most part, Ive done it all.
And from what you said and based on your profile and handul of keys. You are bandwagon hating/parroting.
I always play anti meta and never have issues 
Ill specifically see what is bottom tier, and run that.
Its pretty fun to prove people wrong and carry groups as “the worst”. But thats also having fun with it vs parroting charts or what your favorite youtuber said.
Weren’t pugged.
Which further invalidates your claims since you weren’t in a pug setting to see how randoms interact lol.
You are quite literally doing the same thing I was talking about, but makes sense why you were defending the “zero experience” stance.
Most of mine are pugged. I do do some guild runs. But because of our schedules, Ive done countless more in lfg pug than guild or friend premade.
I do a bit too. But its no where near as drastic of a change as surv going melee. That build and playstyle changed COMPLETELY.
This one is very minor in comparison. Just messing around on the ptr, it already feels better too.
My point remains the same:
Anyone can pass judgement on whatever they want, for whatever reason. You should gather information before doing so if you want a correct judgement, but such information can come from other sources other than actually doing it.
Your assertion otherwise, does not disprove my point.
It does because you fell into the same trap.
You made a bunch of wild claims and admitted to never having done it in the setting you were talking about.
So you have your opinion on it, however it is completely baseless.
It’s based on plenty.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/13r32mt/mythic_toxicity/
I can keep going.
I’m blown away that they would do this again. To me, it’s no different than deleting my spec and shooting my cat.
The devs don’t care, but I hope enough people quit that they do.
Did you even read the comments?
Literally the first comments are refuting what the op is claiming lol.
And you can keep posting all day. That doesn’t change the fact that you are doing nothing but parroting what other people say.
My experience since legion has been completely different than what you claim as well.
And if you really want to know. High end mythics are “toxic” because people expect you to know what you are doing. Not hold your hand and carry you through a +10.
I don’t call that toxic. I call that holding you accountable and for wasting 4 other peoples time.
You want true toxicity? Go xfer to one of the og pvp servers like tich and darkspear.
Y’all clearly need a refresher on what real toxicity is.
I did, I also read many that support it.