PREACH! This x10000
Like honestly nobody can be surprised here that (i guess I fall under the catergory) the people you’re accusing of having a go at you joins the thread they aren’t going to point out a few things?
What does anyone expect to gain from these threads? You’re creating more of a mess by trying to what? Rally casuals against “”"“elite”"""" players?
Spoiler: Most “elite” players don’t hate you, they nothing you as in you don’t even cross their mind. They just want to do their thing, arena, raid, m+, RBGS whatever.
Really we just need ralph back so all the self proclaimed “casuals” who hate mythic raiders can be located in one thread. He really unified the forums.
I’m not elite, but I do play, so thanks!
Most that I know don’t.
Most that I know don’t care at all.
That is because this whole thing is a strawman/distraction tactic to mask an argument about refusing to play the content provided with some sort of emotionally manipulative “class warfare” nonsense.
No I don’t know who you are. I just know you went out of your way to be needlessly rude. You also, clearly didn’t read much of anything I’ve written and that’s fair enough, I don’t expect you to.
I personally don’t like bashing of anybody, period. I don’t like seeing all this division, I too want a healthy game that appeals to a broad audience.
Do I want on par gear quality, quantity acquisition for solo / casual content - nope. I just want some content and path, and goals. That’s it. I also don’t want to be demeaned. I’m sure you don’t enjoy that either.
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There is no seething division, there is
- ““Casuals”” who hate ““elite”” players
and - ““Elite players”” who don’t even think about ““casual”” players
Streamer > raid loggers > FoTM Elitists > casuals > jealous baddies > male human paladins > LFG hero > pet battle tourists > trial subbers > ganks newbies > pseudo elite alt posting on forum but in reality is Final Fantasy double agent troll
I don’t hate elites, or casuals nor anyone in the broad spectrum in-between. I don’t care for rude people. I mean there’s clearly similar ground here for people to meet and agree. I don’t speak for all casuals obviously, just me. I personally respect people that dedicate the time to raid or mythic +, the skill it takes. I don’t respect rude people.
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I rotflmao
ok,here to you 
As a filthy casual, I generally stay away from the progression race and don’t care for all the casuals vs elite hub-bub.
The whole thing is just a unnecessary distraction.
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Oh you can’t fool me… That chihuahua is a ticking time bomb of an elitist waiting to destroy your ankles. Look at those serial killer eyes and tell me I’m wrong. 
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You can get Valor from callings so yes everyone can get it.
We will be able to get 207 pieces with all dungeons completed at +5, which is even easier than getting 1400 in pvp. Even the +10 achievement is probably reachable for a large section of the player base.
You don’t understand how the token system works do you? Lol
Well to balance , what you said, elitist don’t want casuals to be elite in anything that there is threading on their turf and takes away there spot light. So their is that to consider.
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She is right since there are more casuals it out numbers tokens.
People who use tokens to pay their subs actually pay blizzard a $5 premium since the token costs $20 instead of the $15.xx
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You can get Valor from callings so yes everyone can get it.
We will be able to get 207 pieces with all dungeons completed at +5, which is even easier than getting 1400 in pvp. Even the +10 achievement is probably reachable for a large section of the player base.
With the drop rate I doubt it it would be a longggg time.
We pay with tokens; basically we’re paying $20 for our sub, just not out of our pocket.
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I disagree. I’d imagine that they would want more people for when a raid member can’t make it or for competition and bragging purposes.
They (anyone) don’t pay (literally) anything if they work the AH.