I don’t hate elites, or casuals nor anyone in the broad spectrum in-between. I don’t care for rude people. I mean there’s clearly similar ground here for people to meet and agree. I don’t speak for all casuals obviously, just me. I personally respect people that dedicate the time to raid or mythic +, the skill it takes. I don’t respect rude people.
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I rotflmao
ok,here to you 
As a filthy casual, I generally stay away from the progression race and don’t care for all the casuals vs elite hub-bub.
The whole thing is just a unnecessary distraction.
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Oh you can’t fool me… That chihuahua is a ticking time bomb of an elitist waiting to destroy your ankles. Look at those serial killer eyes and tell me I’m wrong. 
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You can get Valor from callings so yes everyone can get it.
We will be able to get 207 pieces with all dungeons completed at +5, which is even easier than getting 1400 in pvp. Even the +10 achievement is probably reachable for a large section of the player base.
You don’t understand how the token system works do you? Lol
Well to balance , what you said, elitist don’t want casuals to be elite in anything that there is threading on their turf and takes away there spot light. So their is that to consider.
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She is right since there are more casuals it out numbers tokens.
People who use tokens to pay their subs actually pay blizzard a $5 premium since the token costs $20 instead of the $15.xx
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You can get Valor from callings so yes everyone can get it.
We will be able to get 207 pieces with all dungeons completed at +5, which is even easier than getting 1400 in pvp. Even the +10 achievement is probably reachable for a large section of the player base.
With the drop rate I doubt it it would be a longggg time.
We pay with tokens; basically we’re paying $20 for our sub, just not out of our pocket.
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I disagree. I’d imagine that they would want more people for when a raid member can’t make it or for competition and bragging purposes.
They (anyone) don’t pay (literally) anything if they work the AH.
what ? out numbers ?
Ion has apparently acknowledged this issue. Hopefully you’ll have something in place by 9.1, though what exactly I don’t know.
Great seeing you Turnberry!
How many in ratio elist to casual then? You tell me.
what the numbers of players has to do with tokens ?
Price and real money values.
yeah tokens = 20$ sub = 15$