Campaign Failure forced my Canceled Sub

[Joveon-kargath]

Happy Trails! Hope you find a game you enjoy; there’s lots to choose from.

[Sçumßag-kelthuzad]

@Nimerya-azjolnerub

Did you really just “kids today” someone when you have no idea how old they are?

i sure did

because u either are a kid

or have the mental fortitude of one

either way its pathetic

[Sardorim-zuljin]

Could lose with the toxicity, you’know. Uncalled for.

[Myzrym-area-52]

@Quivermethis-rexxar

Actually it has. These days people talk FAR less than even in SL dungeons.

Nah friend dungeons are the same “go go go don’t waste a millisecond of my time, rez me if I die but don’t expect the same in return or so much as a group buff” kind of thing that they’ve been since at least Legion (probably before but that’s when I came back after a break) so not much has changed. If a person didn’t like it in Legion they aren’t going to like it now.

[Aelynara-bloodsail-buccaneers]

@Ginzø-dalaran

I’ve barely done any dungeons and have progressed through the story well.

every expansion had dungeon quests for storyline bruh wth lol

[Sinelius-proudmoore]

This aint skyrim or witcher 3, wow isn’t for you. Stop trying to make an MMORPG into a single player RPG.

[Ardmccloud-frostmourne]

@Cäpslöck-proudmoore

Guess it tells you how few problems DF has compared to BFA/SL that we’ve fallen all the way down to complaining about this.

Well it may surprise you to learn that peoples tastes can change over time.

Seems to me that they don’t like it when they’re railroaded them into dungeons anymore.

[Raistmajere-dawnbringer (Raistmajere)]

If the situation were reversed and they required a BG win I bet a lot of people would quit because they find that activity so distasteful, that’s how I feel about running dungeons. Sparks will be an important factor just to run entry level content in PvP, it’s not right. I won’t run that dungeon, when I feel too underpowered in the near future I will cease to play and I just came back.

[Brewa-hyjal]

@Raistmajere-dawnbringer

If the situation were reversed and they required a BG win I bet a lot of people would quit because they find that activity so distasteful

The Wrathion campaign story in MoP required you to win 2 BG’s and people managed that.

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

I never said they weren’t “gogogo”.

I said people are far less talkative.
So if anything, its easier for casuals or solo’s to get dungeons done as people don’t talk and speed run it.
Just get your one done and never go back.

[Raistmajere-dawnbringer (Raistmajere)]

If I reacted like a lot of people did then I would sit at the beginning of the dungeon and expect to be carried, were you here for the response? Many threatened to leave, I didn’t track to make sure they left and stayed gone but they haven’t tried to force PvE to PvP since then to the best of my recollection.

[Atn-illidan]

Bruh I’ve been playing for 17 year’s this is the first time I’ve seen a post like this… Maybe I just haven’t spent enough time on the forums, But WoW.

[Quivermethis-rexxar]

There have been quite a few this xpac.
Mostly just complaining about not enough solo content or like this, feeling ‘forced’ to do group content.

[Raistmajere-dawnbringer (Raistmajere)]

Here’s one from SLands, I’ve participated in these threads since I think Legion when they gated early crafting recipes. I left soon after this thread, I posted to it but am not the OP. I just came back, no sunken cost.

Completing a dungeon really required for Kyrian campaign?

Hello! Am a newish player, so may not understand what I’m doing wrong… Am Prot Pally, working through Kyrian Covenant campaign, and seems like I am stuck until I finish a dungeon? Was able to complete Night Fae Campaign on druid solo, no dungeons required, so am frustrated about this. I’m renown 12, attempting to get the 3rd chapter of the Kyrian campaign Trials of Ascension. The quest log says “Continue the campaign by accepting the quest The Spires of Ascension in Elysian Hold.” which is …

EDIT: Looking through the thread, same arguments. What’s a few less players, plenty more where we came from?

[Slimee-faerlina]

Sorry to hear about this

[Baalzebarbie-azuresong]

@Baeshinn-tichondrius

@Marduk-dawnbringer

If they are going to force dungeon content on everyone, then it’s only fair they bring back daily WQ and force daily open world content on everyone, I mean it’s only some open world content you can blast through quickly right.

I dont think anyone would give a sh!t about a weekly quest to complete WQ’s.

People hated emmissaries and such because it was daily or bi-daily and was tied to player power. Thus making it a mandatory grind, with no hard cap on additional reduced returns farming world quests.

They hated it for very different reasons with very different time requirements and to construe it as anything else is exceedingly disingenuous.

Are you trying to tell us doing dungeons isnt tied to player power? You even get to use raiding god gear to do your world quests. Kids are lazy today is what it is.

[Baalzebarbie-azuresong]

@Baeshinn-tichondrius

@Failea-azgalor

Different reasons, yes. Better or worse reasons? Not really. I mean it’s easy. It’s a game and people tend to want to play a game on their own terms. For some people that means being able to only log on twice a week without missing out on, e. g., some emissaries that are tied to player power, for others it means not having to do content X that makes them anxious to be able to do content Y they’d love to do. Different reasons can be equally valid.

You cannot honestly be trying to compare spending 15-20 minutes once every few weeks to bang out a quest for casuals, as the same as being REQUIRED to spend a minimum of 30 minutes a DAY doing WQ’s for endgame raiders/dungeoneers. Players who are already spending upwards of 25-30 hours minimum a week, on other content to include minimum raiding/dingeon vault quotas and consumable mat farming.

Its disingenuous as F to compare the two. Not saying you are, but the guy i replied to definitely is.

No one is making you. If you want the rewards, do the content. Now where did I hear that before?

[Baalzebarbie-azuresong]

Like having to do WQ dailies to get the rewards for them. whine whine whine!!! I have to do something other than my raid to get stuff(that is optional) to raid!

[Orctang-area-52 (Orctang)]

@Lucrend-thrall

a game designed around grouping up

The reason why it is failing.

[Hamstar-draktharon (Hamstar)]

Has there ever been an xpac where parts of the campaign were not in dungeons?