Big Blood Elf Customization Thread

[Ariël-drakkari (Ariël)]

Hehehe a great improvement!!

See how the art features look more similar to fire than to “light”? and are still good enough to pass for “Light” stuff for any RPer?

@Lilock-kilrogg

i just think of the san’layn video, where the artist decided to give red eyes to some

Still NOT official though. Ergo can´t be used as a “lore” explanation.

@Fallynn-wyrmrest-accord

This is the one instance. This helmet looks really bad compared to the rest of the gear, as an off-observation. It also led to discussions on San’layn rankings.

And a problematic “one instance” to boot cause the eye color is hidden behind the helm. Remember the Bloodfang Rogue tier set? The helm on that one has one cute secondary effect: it gives red eyes by default to any toon using it. And I don´t think this is grounds to demand red eye for rogues for example.

Under that premise anyone could perfectly discard this one stance of red eyed San´layn as an after effect of the helm on that toon. As you correclty said, the devs probably used a regular Dark Ranger toon and forgot to correct the eye colors, creating a whole problem.

@Fallynn-wyrmrest-accord

Red eyes with black sclera would be so neat.

I want regular human eyes with black sclera for the Forsaken model though -Bleach´s Hollow aesthetics got to me XS. I´m not 100% sure if this would be offensive for you guys, after all it was an idea for the Vampyr theme-.

[Fallynn-wyrmrest-accord (Fallynn)]

@Ariël-drakkari

I want regular human eyes with black sclera for the Forsaken model though -Bleach´s Hollow aesthetics got to me XS. I´m not 100% sure if this would be offensive for you guys, after all it was an idea for the Vampyr theme-.

Not at all. Forsaken make sense for this, besides, they are a Horde race where it definitely fits. A vampyr theme on forsaken would also be neat (I did propose the idea on a different thread) whether they got a human model or not. Granted, I personally am not a huge fan of the forsaken model and like ‘beautiful’ vampire concepts, but giving ideas to the forsaken like that is entirely fair.

(People propose a San’layn toggle for Forsaken, 2 models, which I’m not entirely against. Would rather blood elves but this works too.)

@Ariël-drakkari

And a problematic “one instance” to boot cause the eye color is hidden behind the helm. Remember the Bloodfang Rogue tier set? The helm on that one has one cute secondary effect: it gives red eyes by default to any toon using it. And I don´t think this is grounds to demand red eye for rogues for example.

Under that premise anyone could perfectly discard this one stance of red eyed San´layn as an after effect of the helm on that toon. As you correclty said, the devs probably used a regular Dark Ranger toon and forgot to correct the eye colors, creating a whole problem.

Shows that they have 0 idea what they’re doing with the San’layn, unfortunately. We see the blood curse mutates (Lana’thel wings, blood princes in general) but there’s been no meaningful update since then, even though they were used in BfA. One instance of red eyes here, Death Knights there, San’layn models on queen & princes different than base, vampirates being another entirely unexplored concept… gods I am so frustrated about being led on. The least they could do would be “we’re not looking to expand this lore”. They won’t because they like to carrot-on-a-stick.

Granted, with how utterly bad their writing is, I’m more convinced they were throwaways just to hype up a community to bait them into playing and then let us down hardcore. Still extremely salty about this.

[Lilock-kilrogg]

wanted to share a post i made in another thread

→ linky linky

[Disdain-ravencrest]

Anyone can get a tattoo… So just run with that.

[Lannister-tichondrius]

Farstrider tattoos should be a Blood Elf exclusive of course.

[Balesong-argent-dawn (Balesong)]

Come on! Let’s keep the mana flowing throughout this thread.

[Kyuu-bronzebeard]

@Fallynn-wyrmrest-accord

Nah that’s fair. I think you’re presenting it in a nice way. Sorry I sometimes come off as … well. You know. I just… want multiple themes for blood elves, you know? And something that doesn’t put them into the box of only light, a contrast to void elves. I just wish Blizzard would put more nuance in the light and emphasize it’s use for noble purposes. Not some faith, but truly getting the magic because you believe in a cause. I think I’d ease up on it a bit more if it wasn’t pushed as like ‘end all be all good’.

Anyone who tries to put Blood Elves into one specific box when they’re a rather diverse culture for wow is doing them a disservice.

I like to point out they’ve got three major themes.

Magisters, Farstriders and Blood Knights.

As well as several Sub Themes.

Dark Rangers and San’layn (Sort of anyways.), Blood Magi, Pheonix’s, Felblood Elves (Also a sort of.), and I’m probably forgetting one or two others.

Thats a lot to work with, and yet Blizzard decided to work off of vapid jewelry as their main customization… and then didn’t apply it to males.

@Fallynn-wyrmrest-accord

I feel like the phoenix captures the idea of rising from the ashes of what happened so well, I love it so much.

Aye.

I know that Kael’thas family had a link to Pheonix’s so I can see some of that being… regretted but for the most part I think blood elves would still hold Pheonix in high regard anyway.

Plus it can be used in so many ways. Fiery, Light, heck they could probably make a fel green one and still have that be significant.

@Fallynn-wyrmrest-accord

I like all of these ideas ^^ Not to mention, orange is appropriate for fire mage anyhow, right? Since magic reflects in the eyes.

…granted, mage magic is arcane, and that’s covered by blue, so… but still, could work imo.

More eye colors between what we have now just gives us a lot of variability.

However it also lets us RP a blood elf in transition from the fel radiation to “cleansing” from the Sunwell.

All good I think.

And orange is just a nice color.

@Fallynn-wyrmrest-accord

Oh I really love that for void elves, yeah. Deep glowing red for blood elves, and N’zoth for the void elves. Definitely sold there.

Earlier today Somand and Lance were kind enough to work out some new ones too. Very nice.

@Magnificent-wyrmrest-accord

that looks great

Aye.

Ah hell I’ll post the new Void Elf eyes Lance and Somand made for me…

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/812763179004198912/899408702761754644/VoidElfeyesYoggandCthun3.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/590006575905898498/899433342427078666/VoidEyes.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812763179004198912/899438684909215815/yiqJ6Sh.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812763179004198912/899438685198630942/LIfV30N.png

Very neat things for Void Elves.

@Ariël-drakkari

Some Dark Ranger toons have this orange-y eye color.

Just sayin´

Do they? All the better!

@Ariël-drakkari

On the topic of Old God inspired eyes, why haven´t you people picked THE eye old God art features a.k.a. C´Thun eyes? (nice combination of black, purple and beige / light gold)

Heck, take an extra step and use Saronite Green too inspired by good ´ol Yoogy while at it.

Oh! I saw this before! (As well as when you posted it in my thread.) See above for the new ones Lance and Somand made for it.

@Ariël-drakkari

Maybe even pink as a nod to the phoenix theme now that I think about it.

We really need to explore the whole “phoenix eye effects” concept suggested by Fallynn. I know one person who will benefit from this.

I agree with this on all counts.

@Balesong-argent-dawn

Come on! Let’s keep the mana flowing throughout this thread.

Yes lets.

Blood Elves deserve more.

[Lannister-tichondrius]

As if Void Elves didn’t get a second visual theme at the expense of Blood Elves, work done during the time core races were the focus, a second pass that solidified the last of any sense of uniqueness for Blood Elves was now gone, and still people bring them up as being the ones who got the short end of the stick.

Blood Elves got the short end of the stick, Void Elves have two visual themes and retain their own uniqueness as one of them, I don’t understand why Void Elves are taking a second of attention in this thread but maybe someone could explain it to me in terms that make sense please mention the thread title too in the answer just so I can grasp the sentiment.

[Ariël-drakkari (Ariël)]

@Kyuu-bronzebeard

Aye.

I know that Kael’thas family had a link to Pheonix’s so I can see some of that being… regretted but for the most part I think blood elves would still hold Pheonix in high regard anyway.

The Eastern Kingdom´s novel written in-universe by Mathias literally tells us the Belves are caring for both the phoenix hatchling AND Kael´s hawkstrider. It´s actual canon lore, their link to Kael didn´t diminish their spiritual and cultural importance.

@Kyuu-bronzebeard

Do they? All the better!

Ranger Captain Areiel has orange-y eyes in Howling Fjord. Dark Ranger Alina too sports less “blood red” and closer to orange eyes. Dark Ranger Kalira sports borderline yellow eyes in Icecrown (lul, it seems there´s a pattern here: for some reason they Dark Ranger cameos on Northrend sport yellow to orange eye colors).

@Kyuu-bronzebeard

Oh! I saw this before! (As well as when you posted it in my thread.) See above for the new ones Lance and Somand made for it.

Already checked and gave upvote in your thread, some VERY good mockups.

@Kyuu-bronzebeard

Anyone who tries to put Blood Elves into one specific box when they’re a rather diverse culture for wow is doing them a disservice.

I like to point out they’ve got three major themes.

Not so much themes as their main military organizations, though the Belves became VERY military oriented after the zombie apocalypse -why do you think they match so good with the Horde?-.

@Kyuu-bronzebeard

Thats a lot to work with, and yet Blizzard decided to work off of vapid jewelry as their main customization… and then didn’t apply it to males.

Brack et al, nuff said. The lingerie body jewerly was a freaking given, Fen. We dodged a HUGe bullet back there.

@Balesong-argent-dawn

Come on! Let’s keep the mana flowing throughout this thread.

There´s no mockups available for this -and I´m pretty sure FHM Human Trigger will complain and accuse me of robbing her ideas or something-, so I´ll post some Ombré ideas following the phoenix color pattern (I hope this doesn´t bit me in the proverbial butt, Fen. I´ll take the risk as you suggested but I may have to be prepared regardless):

For the original A´lar color pattern:
https://media.allure.com/photos/5b081f20ca53b936bc41eb48/master/pass/derek%20cash%20blue%20phoenix.png

Now, using Felo´melorn color patterns as we can see in here:

https://es.wowhead.com/acquiring-felomelorn-fire-mage-artifact

For the first color scheme on the regular skin of Felo´melorn (frankly, like a regular flame, see image on the left):
https://www.hair.com/dw/image/v2/AANG_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-hair-us-Library/default/dw80ad99d9/blog/fire-ombre-hair-refresh-header.jpg?sw=2000&q=70

For the second color scheme on the aforementioned skin of Felo´melorn:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e6/33/3f/e6333f118893e9464e3c4742d0f1bb79.jpg

The third one (though slightly modified; should end at a darker green):
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/cb/5b/e1cb5b5c4196c76bc85d9c9a57a0b82d.jpg

The last one a.k.a. the blue fire from Felo´melorn (example on the left image):
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/97/9d/a6/979da69c37a515bdc2a41153f91765fb.jpg

Finally, a couple extra example following the previous color patterns but from mid hair:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/2c/61/aa2c61c96b058e0a77a1545df815f616.png
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/1e/f9/5f/1ef95facdf3f3cc9c6633943b0fed2a6.jpg
https://lovehairstyles.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/reverse-ombre-hair-purple-blonde-long-hairstyle.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/98/2d/5c982df16cd4e7ab4c4e36ca0e2e9239.jpg
https://starstudioypsi.com/wp-content/uploads/starstudio-vivids-rainbow-long-pinkfire.jpg

Now, out to think a way to “implement” phoenix eyes… maybe using the color scales put above and going from lighter to darker color from the pupil outwards (think a reverse on the human eye, in the human eye the “dark” pupil is center and the ligher iris + sclera are out. In the phoenix eyes it would be in reverse).

FEN!!! Idk if it´s feasible, but could you please ask Lance or Somand to have a go at this idea?

[Kyuu-bronzebeard]

@Ariël-drakkari

The Eastern Kingdom´s novel written in-universe by Mathias literally tells us the Belves are caring for both the phoenix hatchling AND Kael´s hawkstrider. It´s actual canon lore, their link to Kael didn´t diminish their spiritual and cultural importance.

Ah excellent!

I haven’t had the joy of reading that new bit of lore…

Though I’ve heard some things about it.

@Ariël-drakkari

Ranger Captain Areiel has orange-y eyes in Howling Fjord. Dark Ranger Alina too sports less “blood red” and closer to orange eyes. Dark Ranger Kalira sports borderline yellow eyes in Icecrown (lul, it seems there´s a pattern here: for some reason they Dark Ranger cameos on Northrend sport yellow to orange eye colors).

Interesting.

Guess it was just the model they were using back then.

I might make a trip out there later to look again. Been a long time since I’ve gone to wrath for leveling.

@Ariël-drakkari

Not so much themes as their main military organizations, though the Belves became VERY military oriented after the zombie apocalypse -why do you think they match so good with the Horde?-.

Fair enough. It’s how I group them when I think on it. Really just means arcane, nature/rangery and lightish.

@Ariël-drakkari

For the original A´lar color pattern:
https://media.allure.com/photos/5b081f20ca53b936bc41eb48/master/pass/derek%20cash%20blue%20phoenix.png

@Ariël-drakkari

Now, using Felo´melorn color patterns as we can see in here:

https://es.wowhead.com/acquiring-felomelorn-fire-mage-artifact

Fire Mage Artifact Weapon: Felo'melorn

@Ariël-drakkari

For the first color scheme on the regular skin of Felo´melorn (frankly, like a regular flame, see image on the left):
https://www.hair.com/dw/image/v2/AANG_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-hair-us-Library/default/dw80ad99d9/blog/fire-ombre-hair-refresh-header.jpg?sw=2000&q=70

https://www.hair.com/dw/image/v2/AANG_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-hair-us-Library/default/dw80ad99d9/blog/fire-ombre-hair-refresh-header.jpg?sw=2000&q=70

@Ariël-drakkari

For the second color scheme on the aforementioned skin of Felo´melorn:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e6/33/3f/e6333f118893e9464e3c4742d0f1bb79.jpg

@Ariël-drakkari

The third one (though slightly modified; should end at a darker green):
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/cb/5b/e1cb5b5c4196c76bc85d9c9a57a0b82d.jpg

@Ariël-drakkari

The last one a.k.a. the blue fire from Felo´melorn (example on the left image):
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/97/9d/a6/979da69c37a515bdc2a41153f91765fb.jpg

@Ariël-drakkari

Finally, a couple extra example following the previous color patterns but from mid hair:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/2c/61/aa2c61c96b058e0a77a1545df815f616.png
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/1e/f9/5f/1ef95facdf3f3cc9c6633943b0fed2a6.jpg
https://lovehairstyles.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/reverse-ombre-hair-purple-blonde-long-hairstyle.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5c/98/2d/5c982df16cd4e7ab4c4e36ca0e2e9239.jpg
https://starstudioypsi.com/wp-content/uploads/starstudio-vivids-rainbow-long-pinkfire.jpg

@Ariël-drakkari

Now, out to think a way to “implement” phoenix eyes… maybe using the color scales put above and going from lighter to darker color from the pupil outwards (think a reverse on the human eye, in the human eye the “dark” pupil is center and the ligher iris + sclera are out. In the phoenix eyes it would be in reverse).

FEN!!! Idk if it´s feasible, but could you please ask Lance or Somand to have a go at this idea?

I can absolutely try.

I feel bad asking them without compensating them for their work.

Is there a particular one of the colorations you want to see?

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

Now that’s some pretty hair.

Defiantly looks like something a Blood Elf would do.

[Ariël-drakkari (Ariël)]

@Kyuu-bronzebeard

I can absolutely try.

I feel bad asking them without compensating them for their work.

Is there a particular one of the colorations you want to see?

Oh, nonono!!! Just please let them now about the idea and if they feel like wasting time on it is good, if not, is good too -as you mention, I kinda barely make enough gold to buy the monthly token, as shameful as it sounds to compesate them for their work is out of question for me-.

I´m aware this phoenix eyes are waaay more complext than resizing N´zoth / C´Thun eyes and putting them on the Velf/Belf model.

Btw, thank you for posting the ombré examples (now we just have to see what Fallynn et al think about them).

@Drede-cairne

Now that’s some pretty hair.

Defiantly looks like something a Blood Elf would do.

I´m just waiting for the other shoe to drop tbqh -ombré though in a different pattern to “flame” styles were proposed first by the paladin female in the Velf thread. She may get VERY annoyed (and I suppose, with good reason) we are exploring this know in here, who knows-.

Talking about phoenix stuff, I think you made some phoenix classification in your tattoo list, yes? /checks info

I have a question, when you proposed them Ashes and Phoenix, maybe something like this for the face could match the art proposed? (I know this is makeup but you can get the idea):

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/97e2cac3-ca6d-44e9-906b-550d19e15fb5/d5kn58o-ba5b34a7-67de-4a39-90be-c3cf353a6708.jpg/v1/fill/w_900,h_1200,q_75,strp/phoenix_makeup_by_multicharloww_d5kn58o-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTIwMCIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzk3ZTJjYWMzLWNhNmQtNDRlOS05MDZiLTU1MGQxOWUxNWZiNVwvZDVrbjU4by1iYTViMzRhNy02N2RlLTRhMzktOTBiZS1jM2NmMzUzYTY3MDguanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTkwMCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.p7MbnX7p_uQDlYv4Bu_x7v8kQruOXR2TziymmPQRz48

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/e3/61/f5e36141c6547e6a3a8f3a9f241ffbd2.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/4b/26/164b26dab0e7686055916b836a18219f.jpg

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/91ec2c94-6798-4f2d-ad7b-92abaa8df3d1/d21wrln-4675aa01-8161-482e-bc6d-8e0cc6a937b2.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzkxZWMyYzk0LTY3OTgtNGYyZC1hZDdiLTkyYWJhYThkZjNkMVwvZDIxd3Jsbi00Njc1YWEwMS04MTYxLTQ4MmUtYmM2ZC04ZTBjYzZhOTM3YjIuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.nZtQMCbTJTrCCOIAowkI1HArEq7zg8AuVNUZngsEiDA

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/59/dc/e8/59dce81673b0ebdcee3f0d763ca025d3.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/0c/f1/790cf12e1c34abc2c3c48192dbb5445b.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/550x/c2/be/36/c2be361b4e089162b903ff0cb135830e.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/73/f0/8e73f0edf839d72981bc81e6d04a8cdb.jpg

https://previews.123rf.com/images/erstudiostok/erstudiostok1704/erstudiostok170400641/76698243-fantasy-art-makeup-man-with-black-painted-mask-on-face-close-up-portrait-professional-fashion-makeup.jpg

Finally, some examples to make male Dark Ranger marks (cause let´s be honest the available art only include females and I at least rather don´t get jewerly fiasco 2.0):

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/7f/13/137f1323e484ee52ff0144954a75c51b.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/compes/dar13t/goth-macho-hombre-en-maquillaje-goth-punk-subcultura-dar13t.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/d4/d0/59/d4d0598952d257df729ccd98c0dbf863.jpg

https://decider.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/cursed-daniel-sharman-weeping-monk.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=1200

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

@Ariël-drakkari

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/e3/61/f5e36141c6547e6a3a8f3a9f241ffbd2.jpg

I defiantly see something like this being a thing.

@Ariël-drakkari

Finally, some examples to make male Dark Ranger marks (cause let´s be honest the available art only include females and I at least rather don´t get jewerly fiasco 2.0):

I think those all fit perfectly for dark rangers.

[Magnificent-wyrmrest-accord]

happy monday

T-Rex VS Thanos | Jurassic World Dinosaur Fan Marvel Movie

[Kyuu-bronzebeard]

Well…

She went for the head.

O-O

[Lannister-tichondrius]

@Magnificent-wyrmrest-accord

happy monday

thanks you too

its a great season imo I’ve been in a good mood since last week when summer walker released a new song with the city girls , and then we have scorpio season and while im not a scorpio its just good vibes imo (I have a scorpio moon so I love scorpios) and halloween

[Ariël-drakkari (Ariël)]

@Lannister-tichondrius

thanks you too

its a great season imo I’ve been in a good mood since last week when summer walker released a new song with the city girls , and then we have scorpio season and while im not a scorpio its just good vibes imo (I have a scorpio moon so I love scorpios) and halloween

YHalloween is always fun I agree.

Now that you came into the thread, your opinion on the ombré + makeup / marks proposed?

[Lannister-tichondrius]

@Ariël-drakkari

Now that you came into the thread, your opinion on the ombré + makeup / marks proposed?

For Blood Elves or is this part of the earlier conversation trying to give more attention to Void Elves in this thread?

I’m refraining from giving feedback on a race that doesn’t need attention at this immediate moment, because unlike BEs they at least retain their own visual uniqueness despite the complaints their added options weren’t additions to their main theme they were impactful and the fact they retain their original theme is a win when you consider thats what some BE fans asked for.

[Lilock-kilrogg]

@Ariël-drakkari

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/e3/61/f5e36141c6547e6a3a8f3a9f241ffbd2.jpg

thats gorgeous

this too

oh interesting

pretty

[Greatbrae-dalaran]

@Kyuu-bronzebeard

Dark Rangers

Forsaken theme…

@Kyuu-bronzebeard

San’layn

Not a BE theme and they are better off as an AR frankly.