Let’s also be clear. Some of the premade discords had high standards. The more popular ones only required you to have a 100% mount. But the common thing across all of them was that if you were in there and didnt participate in the strat, you got booted.
Now people do what they want, sit on SHGY the whole game. Till Horde eventually take it. Then the cycle slowly works to SPGY.
The point I was making is that Alliance has lots of players capable of winning AV in the current map. But are held back by useless people who dont want to participate, or by rep grinders that think the most effective way to get rep is to loot HK’s at a GY and turn stuff in untill Horde takes DB.
I would agree that leaving lobbies with 10-15 people at the start of the game was bad. But once Blizz’s first fix came through that was over. They didn’t need to neuter the Alliance by 100% wrecking premades to Apease the Bots and AFK trash we see now.
That’s actually amazing, considering my posts this morning were entirely being misconstrued by you, based on your “feelings”. Everything I said was an attempt to… what did you call it?
Oh right.
Meanwhile despite everything I said to the contrary, you claimed:
When I said no such thing, and to top it off, despite me specifically stating:
This is your immediate take away.
Dude. No one is out to get you. No one is trying to hurt you.
… No team based pvp has ever had a team win ratio this bad before… Except in december… when it was you guys. But hey, who remembers that little factoid. XD
So what is your solution? Should blizzard have a GM watching every AV and make sure that whatever happens, the alliance win 50% of the time? Like if Van gets to 1% they give an instant win to the alliance for an equality of outcome?
You can not patch bad play. Sorry to burst your bubble.
In my experience, people who have to both assure others that they “definitely aren’t angry” and simultaneously need to point out how much they’re “laughing audibly” are very much in fact not laughing, and 100% seething with rage behind their screen.
Providing a screenshot of Alliance rolling Horde 10 times in a row on OCE servers as evidence that premades are back, and NA players should also take advantage of the fact to get those W’s?
Yea man, totally me being snarky and telling you to “gitgud”.
Is “I feel attacked” a family motto or something, out of curiosity?
Figure out what OCE is doing to get premades going again.
Complain on the forums in hopes that Blizzard will change the entire actual map layout of a museum piece game, when even bugs like Juju Flurry are being kept in place for “authenticity”, which effectively make the entire item worthless for the duration of Classic.
In the meantime, keep losing.
Do absolutely nothing, and keep losing.
I don’t understand, how any reasonable human being, can possibly see those 3 options laid out, and somehow construe my saying:
“Hey guys, look—OCE is stomping Horde with Premades again. Ya’ll should maybe figure out how they’re getting premades working, and do that.”
As:
Like dude, the defensiveness and repressed butt-hurt is palpably seeping from you. Chill.
Before today, everyone thought premades were dead.
I provided evidence to show they aren’t—conveniently packaged, and time stamped—and your big take away, was that I’m attacking and deriding all Alliance players.
No he’s not. He’s civil, but not reasonable. He believes the parts that fit his narrative and dismisses the rest. Ten people can say it’s alliance afks that’s the problem and he’ll believe that. 100 people can say it’s a map imbalance and he’ll dismiss it by using the 10 people who blamed the players.
Yes? What do you mean I never said it. I’ve been saying this the entire time.
“Look, here’s an Alliance team using premades to great effect, AFTER the change to break premades, and all Alliance thought it was game over. You should do what they’re doing”
My guy, I posted this 10 hours ago:
From the get go, I said there was no way that screen shot was the result of anything but a resurgence of AV premades.
Harness the power of the premade, and break the Horde stranglehold on AV.
I have won AV as a group of 5. It isn’t nearly as easy as you think. We literally as a 5-man group had to hold down FWGY until it capped, and further hold it for the allies to get to FWGY.
It also requires horde to be a bunch of spergs that run in 1 at a time, instead of coming for us as a group of 20.
If the Horde want to win, all they have to do is bottleneck the Alliance raid at SH, and backcap any alliance who try to ninja anything of yours.
All Alliance has to do is win the first fight, win the next fight, possibly win a 3rd fight (if they went for IBGY), then cap the flag, then win a whole bunch more fights for 5 more minutes.
Scrolling through my interactions with you, I can’t find a single instance where you made it clear this was your position. Unless you are laboring under the pretense I have followed every post on every thread you have been involved with, in which case I assure I haven’t been.
We will say that I glossed over something in this case. Probably true. Edit- I referred to the post that you just quoted yourself from and can’t find any banter between us at all. So yea, your positions have either changed or been unclear up til right now.
With that being said-
-why exactly should Alliance premade? I already know why you think this, but I want you to spell it out for me.
