Hitting the point where even at the start of the game you got a dozen people who just assume a loss on Alliance and don’t even try, which makes it harder to win and bums out other people, dominoing into a mess, game after game.
AV really needs to be fixed, no team based PvP has ever had a team winratio this bad before. Games like Dota and League get sh1t for even having a 1% winrate difference between the sides.
Yep…got fed up with this attitude after week 2 of av and havent been back since.
AV does not needs as much fixing as the mentality of the player base.
should of done AV when premades were around ;^)
This. People can believe that they’re going to lose for one reason or another, a legitimate or otherwise…but if such a large-fraction of your team isn’t even going to try, then its hard to read into win-percentages as a metric of balance.
Once I finish the rank 10 grind I’m never going back, but as it stands its 3-5k honor per hour and I only need to do about 3 hours a night.
The game is not balanced, Horde do not have to make any choices at game start. Horde simply show up at SHGY and once they overpower it they win.
Alliance have 3 choices and if 95% don’t agree it’s a loss.
Please though, tell us more about balance.
As per the OP’s description if a dozen people arn’t actually playing, how do you expect to hold anything with 30% of your team not playing?
Thank you for bringing this important issue to our attention.
OP is a rep farmer that is praying for a win to get a quest off-hand.
People ARE playing in AV, it takes 3x the skill to overcome the insane advantages Horde have in the beginning.
Can you effing imagine if IBGY didn’t have a way out but past that flag??? IT WOULD BE SLAUGHTER! You have no clue what its like spawning in, not one, but two fishbowls.
This is a symptom of imbalances that are never going to be addressed and these sentiments are going to just continue snowballing.
This version of AV is the worst and yet you still have people defending it because they have close to 100% win rate in the pve mini game.
Obviously if you can expect to win every time it will be a rallying cry for your team to all be involved.
It would be very nice if you stop just talking passed me and address what I said. Every conversation with you seems to go like this:
Someone says something.
You say: Map Bad!
Someone replies with their opinions and a rebuttal:
You say: But Map Bad!
Repeat ad nauseam.
So please address what I am actually saying, otherwise you have not actually contributed anything.
This is the symptom of the PERCEPTION of imbalance, whether its true or not. If people believe they’re at a disadvantage they will tend to lose…even if they’re actually not.
But it is extremely hard to tell if they’re actually at a disadvantage if they’re not actually participating.
Undead
Rogue
Horde
99% win rate faction
So what is your solution? All I read from your posts is telling people to change their mindset. You’re like a motivational speaker without the motivation.
I don’t AV anymore but for one side to continue to have near perfect win rates is obviously destroying the BG.
Nice stereo-typing. I actually think the current meta is not healthy and want it to be in a healthier state, but I want it to be fixed correctly.
But again, good job devolving into such nonsense.
Great to hear this new info on the Horde cave location .
I completely agree that the current state of AV is not healthy…however, I am not a game designer, and I am not arrogant enough to think that I could solve the problem by my self.
I wrote this post a while back: The Curious case of Wolfenstein, AV and Player Perception And it describes a situation where two identical guns had different performance simply because the player-base perceived they were imbalanced. They were literally identical, but the players wrongfully assumed otherwise and it led to an actual in-game discrepancy. The fix…was to change the sound-effects on one of the guns to make it “feel” less powerful.
I don’t have the experience in design or workings of this game to even pretend to come up with a way to make the Alliance try though…which is unfortunate.
Its impossible to talk to the defeatist types. All they do is make excuses for being terrible at PVP.
There are issues with the map, but they fail to see how well Alliance overcame that by weeding out the spergs with premades.
This!
I was around for those. They sucked, too. It was a bunch of elitist cheaters (which sounds like an oxymoron, but it is what it is.)
This happened last night where we couldn’t even find where the Alliance was aside from like like 10 at SHGY. Ended up being an honor farm near SPGY for 35 minutes but it was bizarre. They moved south a bit way at the end but no one really tried to do anything.
It’s not fun for the Horde either. As much as an easy win is, it’s not very fun.