And that kids is why sharding is unacceptable

[Althiya-wyrmrest-accord]

None of which is hurt by sharding. Sharding doesn’t stop zone-wide communication. And if you can’t see that person, simply join group, get what you need, and drop. It’s really simple to do.

How am I supposed to meet new people in the world while questing if the server puts me in an low-pop shard?

[Fesz-cenarius]

Are those who see all those other players in an MMO as nothing but obstacles in their way unable to wait until the initial rush is over?

In the unlikely event they choose not to shard the starting areas, I may very well do that.

In the likely even that they use sharding in the starting zones, I will be on the moment it launches with my wife and daughter, and it will be glorious.

And what happens when all those “obstacles” in Durotar and Mulgore move to the Barrens and you can’t get those Zhevra hooves as quickly as you want?

[Althiya-wyrmrest-accord]

No I haven’t. “Because I don’t want it” isn’t a valid reason.

Go back and re-read until you comprehend then.

[Fallanaa-area-52 (Fallanaa)]

How am I supposed to meet new people in the world while questing if the server puts me in an low-pop shard?

Shadring does not affect general chat. So… “/1 Currently killing wolves, anyone want to group up?” is still possible. Then you’ve met people.

[Fallanaa-area-52 (Fallanaa)]

And what happens when all those “obstacles” in Durotar and Mulgore move to the Barrens and you can’t get those Zhevra hooves as quickly as you want?

Then I work on one of the other dozens of quests in the area, and there won’t be as many “obstacles” all doing the same thing as me at the same time. The Barrens is a HUGE zone compared to the starting zone.

[Althiya-wyrmrest-accord]

Shadring does not affect general chat. So… “/1 Currently killing wolves, anyone want to group up?” is still possible. Then you’ve met people.

Asking in chat is not the same as meeting people in the world while doing things. Do you understand or do you need me to explain this further?

[Fallanaa-area-52 (Fallanaa)]

Go back and re-read until you comprehend then.

No valid reasons to re-read.

[Brockthorn-malygos (Brockthorn)]

The Barrens is a HUGE zone compared to the starting zone.

It may be huge but it’s still bound by levels/quests.
As a level 10 you aren’t going to venture to areas with level 18 mobs.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

Which is good because the launch of TBC was an unmitigated disaster.

How did TBC ever survive without sharding?

it didn’t, didn’t you hear? TBC was that expansion that introduced sharding and saw subs plummit.

oh wait. sorry. wrong expansion.

Nope, BC just had queues and crashing servers at launch.

Funny I had no such issues.[quote=“Fallanaa, post:575, topic:14111, full:true”]

Nope, BC just had queues and crashing servers at launch.

Correct. Once people got out of the initial Hellfire DISASTER (Do NOT care about PvP, it is useless and stupid), things spread out and smoothed out.

Still have yet to see a single VALID reason for not sharding the starting zones at launch, just a lot of sarcasm and snark.
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Just because you do not see the value in PvP does not mean it is useless. I do not see the value in sharding, it does not mean it is useless.
Furthermore if bc had the tech from today you probably wouldn’t run into those issues, seeing as many servers weren’t crashing in B.C. even with old tech.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

@Fallanaa-area-52

@Fateweaver-misha

Wasn’t in Vanilla. Only reason that matters.

battle.net integration wasn’t in Vanilla, still happening.

Doesn’t effect gameplay in the slightest. Sharding does.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

I don’t plan to play for 2-3 weeks after launch. And if sharding stays then I won’t play at all. Not like Blizzard is the only one to make MMO’s to play.

A perfectly good and mature response to sharding. Would be great if more of your compatriots felt the same way.

But how is it fair for us to get a 2 week later start so you can have the start you want? By that time you could be level capped and on a mount?

Let’s make it fair. Those who want sharding get the first two weeks but then ate forced to not play for the next two.
Or instead, those who don’t want the mass of people thing their start can wait two weeks.

Seeing as what you want affects literally everyone else, but what we want doesn’t change the game at all.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

Well that’s just it…you didn’t have to “group up” because there was no sharding. That’s not ‘authentic’.

And? Blizzard said many times “As authentic as possible”, which means that it isn’t going to be 100% authentic, ever. That’s a non-starter.

They also understand our anger of potential sharding use and will only use it if they absolutely have too. And until they say otherwise I will fight against it’s use.
Furthermore if it is used , and used outside of starting zones or beyond 2 weeks blizzard will never see another penny from me.

[Brockthorn-malygos (Brockthorn)]

And until they say otherwise I will fight against it’s use.

Well it’s part of 7.3.5 as is crz. Now they did say no crz but they also said that about retail in the current expansion zones and they went back on their word with that.

And from the various posts I’ve seen on sharding in retail (including blue tweets) it may be an automatic trigger based on population numbers.
This based on posts/blue tweets regarding sharding happening on RP servers during RP events.

[Fesz-cenarius]

And until they say otherwise I will fight against it’s use.

Well it’s part of 7.3.5 as is crz. Now they did say no crz but they also said that about retail in the current expansion zones and they went back on their word with that.

And from the various posts I’ve seen on sharding in retail (including blue tweets) it may be an automatic trigger based on population numbers.
This based on posts/blue tweets regarding sharding happening on RP servers during RP events.

This is one of the reasons why people are so concerned with Blizzard even getting a toe in the door with sharding.

If sharding is “automatically triggered” based on population numbers, then how can Blizzard expect to be able to honor their word that it would only be used in the starting areas?

It couldn’t possibly be that they have no intentions of honoring their word and expect that once people accept limited sharding, it will be easier to get them to accept sharding throughout the world, could it? Blizzard has never lied to us or gone back on their word before, right?

[Brockthorn-malygos (Brockthorn)]

If sharding is “automatically triggered” based on population numbers, then how can Blizzard expect to be able to honor their word that it would only be used in the starting areas?

I was speculating with regarding that. When sharding happened and players took to the forum the blue tweets said they would turn it off.
So this was all after the fact. But then it happened again and again and again.

[Brockthorn-malygos (Brockthorn)]

It couldn’t possibly be that they have no intentions of honoring their word and expect that once people accept limited sharding, it will be easier to get them to accept sharding throughout the world, could it? Blizzard has never lied to us or gone back on their word before, right?

I left mid Legion. The sharding/crz throughout the game just got to me.
There’s still lots of players that don’t seem bothered by it.
And if it does stay in classic I’m sure lots of players will stay.
But I won’t be one of them.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

It couldn’t possibly be that they have no intentions of honoring their word and expect that once people accept limited sharding, it will be easier to get them to accept sharding throughout the world, could it? Blizzard has never lied to us or gone back on their word before, right?

I left mid Legion. The sharding/crz throughout the game just got to me.
There’s still lots of players that don’t seem bothered by it.
And if it does stay in classic I’m sure lots of players will stay.
But I won’t be one of them.

to be fair, since basically wrath this game has been venturing further away from mmo and rpg in the name of convienence and accessibility.

[Brockthorn-malygos (Brockthorn)]

to be fair, since basically wrath this game has been venturing further away from mmo and rpg in the name of convienence and accessibility.

Activision is like EA. Acquire a profitable game company and bleed it dry.

[Fesz-cenarius]

It couldn’t possibly be that they have no intentions of honoring their word and expect that once people accept limited sharding, it will be easier to get them to accept sharding throughout the world, could it? Blizzard has never lied to us or gone back on their word before, right?

I left mid Legion. The sharding/crz throughout the game just got to me.
There’s still lots of players that don’t seem bothered by it.
And if it does stay in classic I’m sure lots of players will stay.
But I won’t be one of them.

to be fair, since basically wrath this game has been venturing further away from mmo and rpg in the name of convienence and accessibility.

You will get no argument from me on that score.

I’m seeing what appears to be a pretty consistent push from most of the posters who play retail wanting Blizzard to head down that “convenience” path with Classic, as well. Some are likely simply trolls trying to sabotage Classic by any means and some are likely afraid of the “challenge” of a truer Classic experience.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

to be fair, since basically wrath this game has been venturing further away from mmo and rpg in the name of convienence and accessibility.

Activision is like EA. Acquire a profitable game company and bleed it dry.

don’t remind me. have you seen the latest bull around Dragon age 4?