Alterac Valley in Classic

Ziryus-doomhammer · May 27, 2019, 6:54pm

Seijuron:

If anything, A.V 1.12 is worse than A.V 2.3 with reinforcements, and this is very sad to say as reinforcements were an absolute terrible addition.

Do you know why Blizzard added reinforcements and adjusted the B.G in Burning Crusade? Because from the 1.12 version to the 2.2 version, the Alliance won up to 70-80% of the A.Vs while the two others BGs were closer to 50% winrate. After the changes in 2.2, Alliance was still winning 60%. Kalkan a.k.a Tom Chilton himself announced this prior to the 2.2.
The map hugely favors the alliance in the zerg rush and it was extremely popular by TBC.

When 2.3 hit, the Horde was hugely favored this time around, although it took a while to understand the strategy needed for them to win: Turtle at Iceblood and wait for the reinforcement to wear down. Even then, the alliance was still winning a good amount of AV, as they just needed to cap the southern graveyards for the horde to fall back and having their defense at Iceblood weakened.
Funnily enough, the Alliance literally boycotted the BG and blizzard adjusted the entrance of the horde cave within a month or a couple of months while it took them a year to address the issue of 1.12.

So no, 1.12 is an absolute mistake to do and the solution to avoid is to go further back in time with an anterior version like 1.5 or 1.8.
There is no way to avoid the zerg rush in Classic, and even if the horde turtles, it is easy for the alliance to sneak through and tag the southern graveyards.

Yeah i’d love to see your numbers for that massive 80% alliance win rate pre 2.3.

Horde had that win rate post 2.3 briefly before alliance yes boycotted the BG. Blizzard never tweaked AV because of the boycott they just let the fact that horde were cool with losing in a zerg ride.

And sneaking through and tagging GY’s that’s not how a zerg works… that’s you know actual pvp strategy that can be countered by pvp. If a handful of stealthers cap a GY and your side doesn’t take it back that is your fault not the fault of the map.