Alterac Valley in Classic

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

or in massive fights 30v30 and that’s all it really was until a team finally pushed to vicory

Soooo, basically a pvpve war zone as originally designed. You make a compelling argument.

So is 1.12. 1.12 just emphasizes pvp more than pve compared to 1.5 which heavily emphasized pve.

This is where I once again remind you that less PVP happened as a result, and then you once again attempt to blame the players rather than the changes to the BG.

/shrug and this is where you blame the map instead of the players. Despite that there were plenty of games where a lot of pvp happened in 1.12.