I get the need for representation, but not every storyline is a romantic one (nor does it NEED to be).
Other than the sexual preference, there’s absolutely nothing separating LBGT+ from…everyone else. Therefore - In most non-romantic storylines, there should be nothing different about them.
Your sexuality shouldn’t be your personality. You can be more.
I don’t mind if LGBT people are represented.
I do mind if they are one-dimensional and all they are is just the one-note “YAAAASSSSS QUEEN!” type.
Now if they are a relatable character with flaws, humanity, and something that makes them a likable and decent character, them being LGBT is the least of my worries, just an aspect of their lives, just not the end-all-be-all of their lives.
I don’t think anyone under the age of 50 minds. It’s just how life is. Things have changed, and it’s boomers being boomers that make it seem like it hasn’t.
We work with and live around homosexuals 24/7, and it’s as normal to us as stopping on red and going on green.
EDIT: Anduin and Genn would be a reasonable option without feeling shoehorned in. Hell, Anduin and anyone.
It’s really OK, Xinat. You will live and the world will go on.
That sentence was specifically in reference to not agreeing with who someone is. Don’t take it out of context. That’s just as bad as an echo chamber. Who someone is, is not your place to comment on. Period.
Or would you rather someone start spouting they don’t “agree” with straight people, people of other ethnicities, etc. and get banned for it, but nothing ever happens to the people spouting homophobic stuff on the forums. Which we know because there’s NEVER a break in what they post.
These forums have a massive double standard when it comes to homophobia. Which in itself is the reason we need threads like that.
Here it is, in context, in full:
Please point out where it’s in reference to someone not agreeing with who someone is. It’s your closing statement, that people should not comment on something they don’t agree with.
Now, what constitutes…
…?
Would the simple act of disagreeing about Blizzard adding more LGBTQ representation qualify as starting an issue?
I agree that…
…while I also believe that people who don’t agree with the premise should be free to discuss and debate that subject provided it’s done with respect for the people they’re disagreeing with.
Not everyone opposed (unless you’re just going to flat out call them liars who are falsely representing themselves as members of the LGBTQ community) - especially to the premise of forcing inclusion for its own sake and not in the context of the story - is a cisgendered straight homophobe.
They do, actually.
Factually untrue. Don’t assume your personal …what would you even call this? Your personal issues with relationships and intimacy, are shared by everyone.
If we actually did this, straight people other than apparently you would riot harder than LGBT people ever had. Gotta keep things real.
If Blizz went by that rule of thumb we would have lost one of the best quest chains in Wrath.
Quote from the comments.
For those that didn’t know, this quest line was a dedication to a one Brad Bridenbecker, brother to Rob Bridenbecker VP of Online Technologies. Brad had suffered from cancer and was an avid WoW player. His brother requested some memorial be set up for his brother and Chris Metzen, along with others, thought up this quest line to immortalize his battle with cancer within our beloved fantasy realm.
Two hours until the original thread gets automatically reopened. Anyone want to make a bet on how long it will remain unlocked?
My bet is that unless someone got banned for abusing the report last time–(Only one post happened between it and the last lock, which is insane)–it goes down within a few hours.
I’m for LGBT rights and equality. People are people and 2000 year old fairy tales that tell people they’re unnatural shouldn’t be used as a foundation of law.
However, I play WoW in order to escape from reality for a bit, because real life is depressing, and claustrophobic, and stressful, and difficult, and here you are intruding real life into my escape?
It wasn’t “flagging abuse”.
I have to agree. It is pretty sad how quickly it keeps going down. If you don’t want to have an equal back and forth on the subject just don’t take part. If they don’t want to keep seeing it, which I understand, mute the thread. It’s what I do to all the High Elf mega threads. lol
You not liking something does not qualify as a flaggable offense. It straight up doesn’t. Period. I apologize that your escape has been disrupted. However…
Why are you on the forums and not in-game if you’re trying to escape? Yeah… Doesn’t quite make sense. Don’t read forum threads labeled about these things if you’re trying to avoid them?? We can’t enable you by censoring everyone.
Didnt have to read the thread, mate. But it was flagging abuse. It is flagging abuse when an entire political party (several exist on this forum) decides to mass flag.
It’s a catch-22. They don’t want it within the game so they can escape it but if they do not voice their distaste for it, then their opinion cannot be known to the developers and thus would end up in the game. Therefore they have to enter said threads to voice their dislike for the topic matter.
Remember, developers are not mind readers.
Moving the topic to OT was the correct move, and I thank OP for that. But it did not belong on GD because WoW is not a political vehicle. I play wow, and enjoy the forums, to focus on an escape. If the devs want to organically include LGBT themes into the game organically, I’m all for it. But when you barge onto the GD board to demand representation, you remind me that there’s a real world out there and kill my escape.
And yes, the forums count.
Cannot claim for certain if it was or was not as with any political type of thread or highly controversial topics, tempers flare and people are bound to cross the lines of forum rules. It is just as likely that people in favor of said topic were reporting those who opposed it because of forum infractions and thus contributed to the thread being locked. There’s probably so many posts reported in it on both sides that it would only take a couple of reports to send it back into auto lock again.
It wasn’t flagging abuse. You posted an OT post in GD.
Flaring tempers seems more like their problem because I don’t reach a boiling point. Not capable of doing so. But I assume tempers what got the other thread false flagged. Okay, it should have been in another section of the forums… move other thread there, fine. But don’t give me an excuse to roll up.
Do explain why this thread is still in GD and hasn’t been flagged once in the two days it’s been up?
Oh, and this thread which is off topic and amazingly hasn’t been locked. lol
How does that work anyways the shut down thing. Is it because the topic gets flagged or posts in it? Because If its the posts In it. I don’t think it was closed due to people being against LGBT well not directly anyways. There was one guy in there calling being gay a mental illness and he kept spamming that nonsense and got flagged for it everytime he did. I kind of assumed that was why it got locked.