18 bots in Steamvault on my server, all 58 boosted

Yep, aka Sweats. Same people that are against a one time boost for TBC per account. They are sweaty basement dwelling nerds lol.

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I’m the first guy to talk smack to xuxu, but he’s obviously not a native English speaker. Pretty weak to criticize him for getting a word wrong lol

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They’re so phony with their “concern” for the game, as if they weren’t part of the issues in classic with black lotus, spawn camping for devilsaur leather and running up costs on items artificially. Nobody wants their cartels to come back.

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This right here is exactly right! I would put good money on these players being the ones that bought gold in classic when it was easier to get away with it and abused the leveling by using mage boosting.

Now they want to try and sit on the moral high ground in an effort to make sure all their ill-gotten gold is not made worthless.

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Bots aren’t the answer to that. What a bunch of BS. Bots aren’t keeping the costs down - a stack of terocone is 128g on my server. That’s freaking insane.

Blizzard needs to pull their head out and up herbs and ore spawns to match the inflated population that THEY created AND take care of the bot problem.

lol

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You can play as many accounts as you want, long as you aren’t using software or hardware to mirror commands to multiple wow windows at the sametime, to automate or streamline multiboxing. You can play manually as much as you want, although you’ll get yelled at by half the community for it and people reporting anyway cause, “I hate multiboxing.”

Reply from a gm in a ticket on the subject a day after the TOS update in May:
“If all the moves are performed by you manually, then there is no issue with that. If you have other characters on follow, but during the fight you manually switch between the windows and manually cast spells - that is ok.” (name of gm not given for obvious reasons).

But onto the “meat and potatoes” of your post which isn’t about boxing but about the botting. It isn’t so much the 15 dollars a month it’s the manipulation of their servers to where they can’t see it. Now for the fly hack bot issue, they are using old cheats it sounds like that were fixed eons ago in retail but somehow managed to resurface again in classic. I remember way back when that this used to be a common issue a long time ago too. If the fly hacks are seen, please record it and send it to hacks@blizzard.com because those types of hacks you can’t easily right click report and their server may not detect it as easily since it’s hacking the information being sent to their servers.

This is why player reports are important but also in a way that allows for them to see it and document it. Recorded footage or screenshots are what I send to blizzard frequently, which I often do while multiboxing because sometimes having accounts in multiple locations / realms / factions can allow for them to see the issues spread out or how they can be shut down with toys etc in retail (3 toons x 4 cushions = 12 cushions for CUSHIONS OF JUCTICE). I report the living daylights out of bots when I can and hacks, and figure out ways to mess up their day with my characters. I helped shut down hacking bots in booty bay in retail that were able to post auctions from a dead auctioneer that were posting sniped auctions. That was… interesting… I haven’t seen them in about a week now.

You know what keeps the price of herbs down? More herbs. Not so many that you don’t bother to pick them, like Icecap. Enough that you can farm to either use or sell, like mountain silversage.

What do you know about it anyway? You’re not buying anything. Wherever you go herbs and ore are magically appearing at the end of rainbows that only you can see. Throngs of elementals dance around fields of mana thistle and terocone. You don’t even have to kill the elementals, they just poop out their motes for you to pick up.

So, bots are just picking them and vendoring them? They’re not putting them on the AH?

Again, lol.

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Replying to both @bodicca and @notglinda you both are right but in different ways and you’re both tying into each other. Bodicca is saying that the nodes need to be present for them to pick in the first place in order for what Notglinda says to happen. If the server is highly populated out in the world farming of herbs / minerals wouldn’t be possible effectively due to players nabbing the nodes… and said players reporting the quite obvious bots.

That’s where instance farming comes in and what another person mentioned with /who was describing is what happens, they make characters just to run an instance that has nodes / raw gold then go out reset and do it again, which then allows for a massive amount to go on making it harder to AH reset by a big goblin in some instances. They could also do like the OP says and just hack it. However, herbs and minerals where this can’t be done or the minerals can’t be farmed easily, they don’t bother with. They go for the quick stuff / fastest selling stuff that’s also harder to pick up on. So in your each respective ways you are both correct in different ways and different circumstances. Things could change on a server to server basis and the amount of bots farming a specific thing. One bot wouldn’t be noticed, however, 100 bots each getting 400 ore (4 taps per the dungeon) 24/7 instance farming would 100% be noticeable on the AH. So like I said, you both are correct in your own respective ways.

Wrong.

I mean if you can’t see how it both ties in that’s your own problem. I tried and instead of seeing how an issue can be different in different ways you’re like, “nope my way or the highway.”

That doesn’t give any insight into the issue at hand and possible solutions. Instead you give one word answers. If I’m wrong… why? Please iterate.

Edit: I had to edit this to fix a typo.

Correct.

So she is wrong because you say she is. Got you. Typical of the internet these days.

Hey, you know what keeps the price of weed down?

Cartels, that’s who.

So don’t be coming at me with that anti-cartel QQ. They’re the real heroes.

Correct, again.

Oh? Think it will go down in price without the bots? you do realize the gathering cartel’s endgame is to make prices go up not down.

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Ya’ll must play on some crappy/massively overpopulated servers if you are all praising bots for helping the game. It’s the same garbage people over in retail said about MBers.

Kirtonos is doing fine. Mana thistle is the exception, but I can go out and farm herbs whenever I want to. Terocone is definitely a more rare herb for me, but I can still actually farm it. Thankfully I don’t really need it.

I KNOW the price will go down if herbs aren’t ridiculous to get. A stack of felweed is about 4g. It’s not 4g because the bots are the saviors of the AH, it’s 4g because the herb is fairly common. A stack of terocone is 130g. It’s 130g on my server because it’s damn near impossible to get.

I’m not saying that terocone should be made as common as felweed, but the spawns DO need an increase in time and location. The herbs are spawning at a rate meant for less than a third of what the population is now. Why would that make sense?

Saying bots are good for the economy is like saying outsourcing all of our good jobs to China for cheap goods is good policy.

Sure, you can buy a cheap TV at walmart. Then again, you’re out of a job.

Sure, you can buy cheap herbs off the AH. Then again, you can’t make any money from your profession and every lucrative farm is camped 24 hours a day.

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