I keep seeing all these post crying about a timer,and how itâs not fun. But thatâs as far as it goes,just boo hoo timers trigger me.
Why not try to come up with solutions or alternative ways for blizz to balance the tower.
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Iâm going to say I have to agree with the OP here. The tower was one of the things I was most excited for about shadowlands. Probably where I was going to spend the majority of my free time, just pushing as high as I could over and over, and now with these most recent changes Iâm probably not even going to bother doing it at all except for the legendary materials. With one patch they single-handedly killed any excitement I had for the tower. There needs to be no timers, no limits on floors, no limits on anima powers. At least for the endless version. Let the endless version be as unbalanced and broken and ridiculous as it can get, thatâs the fun. If you have to have something super structured and balanced, save that for the regular runs.
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Iâm not sure whatâs more laughable; the salt or the fact that you still play.
âStop thinking different from me!!! RRREEEEE!!!â
Your âsourcesâ are youtubers, which is a /lol on itâs own. You also should have known exactly what is happening and how it actually is, before freaking out on the forum and attacking people.
There is no timer.
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For all you nay sayers concerning lust and cooldowns. This alpha tester even stayed he/she doesnt even use or need lust until bosses, like I said, the powerups are more than enough to get you through.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/torghast-feedback-thread/526859/3
I only know what Iâve seen in alpha footage.
I donât think there is any amount of tuning that can be done to torments to make them not a time limit. Full stop.
Some of the torments, such as the fire damage every 5 seconds, seem just brutal and far more appropriate as a Mythic+ Affix.
I think torments, if they are going to be included should be optional.
Not in a mythic+ get better / more loot way either.
I think having a Torment should be a way of helping reduce the RNG of what loot you get.
For instance, if you specifically have torment X active on Floors Y to Z, you are guaranteed to get a specific set of secondary stats on any item drops, or a particular trinket is guaranteed to drop.
Something like that.
Make them optional and ways of increasing difficulty to reduce RNG on any obtained loot.
Otherwise, absolutely no time limits. Of any kind. If you donât like people waiting on using drums / bloodlust, then simply do not let those spells activate in Torgast at all or cap the number of uses per floor and / or run.
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People using the flag button as a downvote button what a shock. Stop whining about timers. Thereâs a reason that theyâre being put in.
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Yeah, I was like wtf when I saw I got flagged, but hey, nothing came of it.
Then I noticed the post it was from.
Just proved my point really, the brigade of mass posts are all created by unreasonable people.
Youâre supposed to see the post you got flagged for? I only got my first one about an hour ago and I see no trace of any of my posts being hidden or any reference to a post of mine
when you get silenced/flagged, itâs the missing post that stands out on where/when it happened. Iâve been muted twice before, and that was the common denominator.
Would you look at that, a completely reasonable way to counter this abysmally small percentage of players that are playing in an extremely outlier-ish way, and it doesnât involve time limits. everybody should be happy, people donât have to be forced to have a time limit, and blizzard can still stop the problem that isnât a problem. Win-win.
âabysmally smallâ cant be proven and âextremely outlier-ishâ is really smug, donât be like that dude
Come on blizzard give me more of those lies. Keep lying to use. Torghast Torment Timer! 
TICK TOCK GOES THE CLOCK!
People waiting for their cooldowns? Solve the problem a better way like items you can find in jars to reduce cooldown. Donât be smooth brained about this.
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How is that smug? And while of course I cannot objectively prove it, I donât think the player base is patient enough on the whole to wait for their cooldowns before every single pull, based on my experience with this player base, they are much too impatient for that, ergo it is a non-issue.
itâs the implication
youâre devaluing the amount of people who enjoy content because you donât like it, and itâs not even based in fact, you just guessed
How am I devaluing anything? Do you know the meaning of the words youâre using? Iâm not trying to be rude, but honestly. If other people like timers and that kind of thing, thatâs fine, Iâm not trying to take that away from them. What Iâm saying is leave that stuff for the regular mode, and have a completely stress-free fun endless mode that doesnât have to worry about any of the balance or timers or anything. That way everybody is happy in theory.
Bellular says it best in this video, much more eloquently than I could ever sum up: https://youtu.be/tf1-Jo_BBX8
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