if you just said âa completely reasonable way to benefit both kinds of playersâ i wouldnât care, but itâs the addition of saying that theyâre a small bunch with tastes completely different from the majority without any definitive proof is the part that stood out
thatâs all it is my guy
Yeah I agree with you on OPâs misrepresentation, at least of Preach. I even posted his video interview with Morgan Day, and they touched on Torghast, and all seemed fine. OP also had no acknowledgement for my post, which I find a lil ironic, since you know - itâs of one of the streamers he mentions.
Whatever. lol You can lead a horse to waterâŠyadda yadda yadda.
Iâm not keen on a timer, but current game play standards, if it means itâs going to be like a M+ setting, but itâs still in alpha, and I was worried after I saw a Bellular post on twitter(as I stated in my post with the preach vid) but then I found the video, watched it, and have a little bit of hope that all of this, from the OP, as well as Bell and others, is serious over-reaction.
However, we all know how Blizzard is - so anything is possible, and I wouldnât put anything past them. Iâm just going to hold out a small glimmer of hope that it isnât going to be something extreme, or that an option is given for regular/âchallengingâ for those who have issues with such thingsâŠor something like that.
Everyone saying Torghast regular should have these debuffs while endless should be timer free, do realize âendlessâ is supposed to be challenge mode⊠right? In the Morgan Day interview he even said they want regular mode accessible and completable for everyone so that they can get their leggos. So why put the stacking debuffs there?
MMOs shouldnât be competitive. They should be cooperative. If I want competitive Iâll go play Call of Duty or whatever.
Why does Torghast need a timer when weâve already got timed modes in the game? Why canât there be a single refuge in the game for people like me?
No, for some reason they donât recognize that knowing what post got flagged is important information.
You just need to go back through your posts and find the one that is flagged.
Upvoted for truth. There should not be a timer of any form on Torghast so we can progress at our own pace.
Terminate the Torghast Torment Timer! TTTTT!
Bellular has picked up on it to so to the trolls and simps trying to dog pile on me, screw you guys.
https://youtu.be/tf1-Jo_BBX8
Oh look a new and exciting thread.
More constructive communication would occur if folks would keep it one thread
Why do you feel you deserve special treatment? Your issues when playing a video game are not blizzards responsibility and the game doesnât need to cater to you.
Torghasts development is just fine and itâs nowhere near as bad as people are making it out to be. Read the articles, listen to the interviews and youâll see torghast isnât as bad as what these people are making it out to be.
So this is a post telling us to rally against Blizz? I donât care about the timer that much. Iâm not a fan of it, but I probably just wonât do that Torghast thing if it gets in my way.
What is a bellular?
While they canât please everyone they could please a lot more by adding options for both. They can just leave the base as a non timed mode and have some extra achievements/cosmetics if you complete it under a certain amount of time. Those who like to speed through get something and those who like a traditional dungeon crawl get something too. All of Blizzards content would do better if they design their systems with no timers in mind. With no timer people who want to go fast still have the option to do so but with a timer the people who want a traditional dungeon crawl pace have no options.
Iâm sorry it takes you more than 10 seconds to plan that? And youâve been playing since vanilla?
You need to sit still for over 30 seconds to decide to sap one, blind one, and los the last? And a time prevents you from figuring that out.
Iâm sorry the fact you have played wow for over 10 years and dont have basic pulling strategies in muscle memory is a you problem, not a âtimerâ problem.
Not to mention all the crazy anima buffs that supercharge us to anime protagonist levels of overpowered, I cant believe you would need to sit still for more than 30 seconds to plan a strategy.
I donât. Was just hoping this wouldnât be a timed thing when we have tons of timed things already to cater to those types.
Perhaps I am waiting on pathing. You really donât know why I am waiting that amount of time, Perhaps I need to eat to restore some HP.
However what is not need for such a brutal critique of me as a player all because I simply donât want a timer.
This is NOT only your game. If a large portion of the playerbase wantâs timerless content then they should get it.
Your simply insulting anyone you can and being a bully because your too scared to face real content. Real content that will kick you in the rear end. Real content that your well paced timer immune heart is not going to save you from. Timers are a crutchâŠand the players that can handle them have become addicted to a spot light they donât fully deserve. They stand on the shoulders are hard lessons that where made by the people who DID actually take their time.
Your not all great players, your just good at looking up generic strats and running in like looney birds. But then again all of this is coming from a DH so what should I really expect.
Time limits only gatekeeps content from other players.
This was as far as i could get without my eyes rolling so far back that iâd lose them to my brain forever. 
As of right now Shadowlands is already ruin before it even got launched .
I did my time as a âreal raiderâ and donât care to do it again since it almost ruined my life because I got to obsessed with it.
Everything you are mentioning takes less than 2 or 3 moms between every pull, if that.
And there is no timer. Just small debuffs to encourage you to keep going. If sitting still 30 secs is the trigger just strafe in place or run against a wall while your thinking.
I really canât think of any scenario I would need more than maybe 2 mins to recover from and plan my next pull. Even if I survived at 1 up, eating doesnât take that long.
P.s. learn what a bully is. I merely pointed out how your prepull activities shouldnât be taking you to long, especially with your experience. Thatâs not bullying. Especially compared to you hammering me about the content I play.