not as romantic as the relationship i want to pursue with you, future husband
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I’m not Pete Stillwell, you are quoting the wrong person
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the eyes are the window to the soul and i’m fogging up the glass of that window, i’ve never felt closer to you
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Still wrong person let me correct the id for you: 1.31.1 Patch Notes
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and Blizzarf alsor draw inspiration for many of the sing you said they are rip-off
btw maybe even disney rip-off Jaina in frozen
from vanilla wow the mage class have 3 specs (arcane/ice/fire)
i am not sure if vanilla jaina was frost mage but i am sure she was frost mage in Cata even and WoW cata released in 2010, Disney released frozen in 2013
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No dude, in truth WoW drunked Blizz with money and killed their HQ creativity and passion.
No one cares about the monetary behemoth WoW is, plus WoW players will eventually leave on two weeks.
Without WoW, StarCraft Ghost and Diablo 3 by Blizzard North would have happened; Plus maybe Vivendi wouldn’t have bought Blizzard and merged it with Activi$ion
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I always welcome the lore, and its details add through the expansion of wow. talking about simple things from class names. abilities. concepts and etc… i like it and its good that is getting covered.
but the story of wow is trash. apparently more then 50-60% of the upmost important things done in it are accomplished by a bunch of nameless hero’s.
and also a lot of the things that players complete in warcraft 3 are brought back and undone in wow because they were too scared to ran out of content.
Wow didn’t actually help warcraft 3. if your claim is that wow is the reason blizzard have blizzcon, then what did the astronomic success of starcraft 1 do if i may ask ?
it was a combination of work so don’t give all the credits to wow, and wow is also one of the important reasons warcraft 3 was left to rot for 10-12+ years before they started to patch the game up slowly that finally led to Reforged.
(one other being dota1 but i’m not sure how to feel about that)
Warcraft 3s story has a great arc, and it reaches a tragic yet satisfying end that good will not always come on top.
Burning crusade and Wrath of the lich king were also good because of their close connection to the events of wc3. even though they started to bring back sh!t even then. but after the end of wrath the story just nose dived to a black hole.
The only “work” i would do to the original warcraft 3 is some correct model of units and some fleshed out dialogs here and there, the ingame cinmatics being reworked is also a plus. and that’s about it, people also disagree about changing the landscape of stuff. like the culling mission. and i personally wouldn’t have issues with some of these redesigns of places because they can end up looking amazing. but i wouldn’t want to lean towards sacrificing the fact that its an RTS game and an MMORPG designed landscape might not do the gameplay justice.
like how in the showcase of the Culling mission at blizzcon one undead base was entirely removed. and the city was give or less heavily restructured, which again i’m personally okay with that but not with the removing of an extra undead base.
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LOL I know, but as u said I wanna prove he has some intelligence left on him…maybe…
Not really, see Elsa is the snow queen a fairytale, and Jaina and Elsa shared nothing in common excepting frost magic.
My point with Elsa is, she was changed in order to look like Elsa, during her raid she uses two abilities drawn from frozen, and her hair braid was also changed so its the same as elsas, that’s my point.
I’m NOT saying Jaina was a copy of Elsa back then
I’m saying AFTER Elsa and frozen got so popular they exploited the similarities changed Jaina, in order to draw some popularity from Elsa…
In other words, to get elsas fans to like Jaina and ultimately get more subscriptions… Which is why they really care for.
Pd:it’s fun to see how sylvos (sylvanas) and Arthas can get along just fine while some other people can’t even get attention. They try too hard indeed.
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Illidan and Muradin both DIED in Northrend.
Also Kerrigan IS evil, and Joe Raynore neither “cured” nor wound with her.
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But let’s be blunt: World of Warcraft made Blizzard.
I’m not sure if you’re trolling or not. Blizzard was already counted between the most successful PC developers of all time.
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WoD was indeed mishandled. But that was not planned - it was a developmental tragedy.
Cataclysm is literally the Elemental Plane expansion. Makes total sense that the Elemental Lords are breaking out of their prisons. The natural state of the world is Chaos.
See? That’s already deep, interesting and engaging!
Still, you don’t get it.
What's the point of repeating this same old song that is not even true?
It’s like you have not seen a single Pyromancer video. And are never going to. Yet you are repeating the stale old memes… for what?
Actually, I would agree that the WoW lore is different than WC3 - it is much grander and philosophical, whereas WC3 is down to the ground and mundane.
This would hold a lot more water if you approached from the “well they tied Classic’s subscription together with current World of Warcraft just to keep active subscription numbers higher to show to investors and shareholders”.
Rather than “lol dizny ripoff”.
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grabs a bag of popcorn
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Hahahahaha grabs another one, don’t eat alone there pal ;p
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I’ve actually been digging up some Warcraft Adventures videos on youtube. Apparantly it was completed a few years back, I’d only watched up to the part after Thrall infiltrates the Gryphon Aviary. Boy, what the lore would be if that was actually canon.
I mean, people talk about how WoW lore is stupid, but Warcraft Adventures is something else.
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Never forget hookah Deathwing.
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We need Warcraft Adventures Reforged.
Rewrite all of WC3 and WOW altogether with this gem.
#WAR
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I also said that challenged boy, in fact I listed many many different things, but sadly I don’t think you can have complex thoughts so I won’t be explaining how in order to make something appeal to public many dirreferent ways can be approached at the same time… Seee
It’s all a recollection of things rather than one…
You are very simple minded lad.
You try to make everything simple, even thou I said so many things you focused on one,
Be as simple as you can… But don’t simplify what I say… Because I’m not like you.
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Yeah excepting they literally said when they announced it, they did it because they thought it would be cool to revamp the old zones.
Now im gonna say it again… If that’s engaging and deep and interesting… No wonder why cataclysm lost so many subscriptions… Lol
And before you say because gameplay was bad, I would still play a bad game if the lore was good
There’s many examples of this, that’s the thing lore can hold an entire game when it’s good.
Pd;rather than making a statement you look like you are trying to convince us, that reminded me of that guy at blizz con trying to prove diablo immortal was a good idea…
Everybody has a phone…(another good example of things not being that simple)
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Did not read this whole thread, have a feeling it drifted away from op but just a feeling. To answer to original question, I have nothing against WoW players, I just have something against changing lore that was great, and still is, to fit a narrative that do not know where it is really going. And making decisions on how to increase sub ratio rather than consistancy. Which does not make much sens to my eyes.
Will not debate it, I still get in frequent arguments with friends of mine who play WoW and it would not be productive here.
As a side note, playing WoW classic again now, and the game is good. Beside the stupidity of Thrall deciding he needed undead alliance, with a backstabbing witch, I can accept this game. But hey, that is just my personal opinion.
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