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Gradius, you need to understand other people’s argument before making a reply.
Also, what is Telekinetic Blast? Please give me your definition for I’m having trouble understanding the basic dictionary definition of your word, again.
Destructive Wave is pretty clearly an explosion of some kind, as opposed to Kerrigan’s Kinetic Blast, so by the previously provided definitions it isnt telekinesis.
And Spirit is correct, simply being thrown into the air like that would not be significantly damaging until you hit the ground. You would have to be accelerated significantly faster before the g-forces started doing physical damage to you from the launch.
How does nobody in this forum understand gameplay/lore segregation? That’s just how it was programmed, read my last post. Besides, while a car can send you flying 10 feet in the air when it hits you, that doesn’t mean it’s impossible to get a broken bone upon impact. It was easier for the developers to program the damage all at once at the start.
Trying to nitpick the intricacies of gameplay like that in a lore debate is autistic. Just admit that it’s telekinesis already. Other telekinetic abilities in this game apply damage instantly too.
Nuroka’s ability in the short story is obviously pure telekinesis. Nothing about it is like an explosion other than the force it generates. We can extrapolate that to Alarak.
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Actually, we understand it. You’re the one who don’t…
The gameplay/lore segregation is when the lore and gameplay is in conflict. The lore states that the Protoss can’t use Telekinesis. The gameplay AND animation shows that the Protoss can’t use Telekinesis. That’s not gameplay/lore segregation. That’s just you misinterpret the game.
Really, how can you not see this? Your argument is that the lore is wrong and that the gameplay AND animation is wrong, too. If you read my post, you will see that I choose Zergling as an example; that’s by design. The death animation is clear what happens.
Gradius, please read your own basic dictionary definition of the word Telekinesis. It states clearly that there must be no contact nor any physical means. So no hit by a car, ball, shock wave nor blast of any kind. I don’t think you can deal direct damage to anyone by Telekinesis.
Didn’t you already agree that he use the way ability as Alarak’s Destructive Wave?
Protoss use telekinesis. I gave you multiple examples.
What is Kerrigans kinetic blast to you?
For me personally? Using Psionic Energy to create an energy blast that hit and deal damage to the target.
Why are you bringing it up? Kerrigan has Telekinesis is pretty clear in lore and has zero bearing on our discussion.
Also, I’m more interested in what you think the basic dictionary definition of the word Kinetic Blast is.
Technically true, but a telekinetic throwing wouldnt break your bones from impact because it isnt a car and doesnt have mass. You just start moving.
I envy your command over English. How can you learn to be so concise?
Practice. 2020202020
No, you’re just assuming the telekinetic force has zero force behind it when it hits the target and then ramps up from there, which needs a citation.
The vector of the force is important too. Kerrigan crushes a bunch of Vikings with telekinesis and they don’t have to move anywhere.
Gradius, do you understand how physics works? When i throw a baseball, i dont punch it. I throw it, the whole thing at once. A damaging force and a moving force are fundamentally different applications.
Heres a thought experiment for you. Take a pumpkin (if you still have any around) and throw it, as far as you can. See how far it travels.
Then, take a similar pumpkin and smash it with a baseball bat or splitting maul, as hard as you can.
Let us know which one moves better.
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Your analogy fails considering you can hit a baseball with a baseball bat, and not just throw it. Actually, that makes it a good analogy…
Telekinesis in StarCraft can be both damaging and moving. Claiming that it’s not telekinesis because it has to be the latter when there’s plenty of examples of the former is a fallacy.
Baseballs fall apart all the time though. We specifically build them to be hit with bats like that. Careful examination will reveal that a human is not a baseball.
There are no examples of telekinesis in Starcraft that are both directly damaging and directly moving, and you know why? Because thats not how physics works. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, so when you apply energy to something, it has to either move or break. You cant get an even mix of both, because the energy is being spent doing one or the other. Something will break if stressed beyond its capacity to maintain cohesion, and only then will the leftover energy move it.
When you hit a baseball with a bat, the ball is too tough (usually) to break, so the energy is translated into motion. But if something isnt too tough to be damaged by the energy, then you dont get motion because its breaking instead.
Coincidentally, this is also why extremely high speed bullets dont work effectively shooting from air into water. The bullets impact the water and all the energy that is propelling them suddenly is translated into damaging and deforming them. They lose most of their motion and explode.
What you are describing is literally physically impossible.
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Actually, any left over energy will move the pieces flying. (I know this is nitpicking.)
Dude, you are not this dumb. It’s perfectly possible to get hit by a car, break a few bones, and fly 10 ft. I’ve literally seen it happen. Yes, telekinesis has no mass unlike a car… because that’s what makes it a supernatural ability. That’s the whole point.
It’s perfectly plausible for Alarak to hit a Goliath with a force vector that tears thr Goliath’s arm off and another vector that sends it flying.
Stop with these ridiculous excuses just to deny that Protoss use telekinesis.
They mentioned baseball.
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10 feet is an absolutely pitiful amount of distance for the amount of energy involved, and thats because a significant amount of it has gone into breaking your bones instead. If you had been thrown with that energy instead of injured by it, you would have gone significantly further.
Seriously Gradius, “Physics is wrong” is a new low even for you. Again, what you are describing is literally physically impossible.
Wow it’s almost like it got damaged first and then flew off a certain distance…just like Alarak’s ability.
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Thanks for another riveting debate “physics is hard” Kelthar.
Again, that STILL isnt how physics works. The goliath would explode on the spot and the debris would go flying. It wouldnt have an arm sheared off unless Alarak was specifically trying to detach that arm for some reason.
Seriously, can you explain how people are damaged from being hit by the car? From what I read, I don’t think you understand that.
Also, are you moving goal post?
I thought we’re clear about the basic dictionary definition of the word Telekinesis. Are you trying to tell us that the definition is wrong?