How come the playerbase difference between terran and zerg is 26 000 and their difference in gold and below is 25 000?
When your entire argument is that zerg is overrepresented in higher leagues proportional to their population, and population difference is almost entirely in gold and below…
Right. Because your race is easier… Otherwise that population difference would be split evenly. You can deny it, because you’re going to… But it’s just straight facts.
No it would not, as we see in the proportional representation in lower leagues between t, p, and z that increase with popularity. Conversely, when we look at upper league representation, they seem largely unaffected by racial popularity, and this is true for all races.
Popularity determines # of players in lower leagues, else the difference in popularity between terran and zerg would not be almost entirely made up in their lower league population difference…
Once again, your entire argument is that zerg is overrepresented in higher leagues proportional to their population, and population difference is almost entirely in gold and below…
So, if you want to balance whine about zerg everyday, start using upper league representation in comparison to other races rather than proportional representation to population, as population is determined by lower league popularity… It’s still not a strong argument, but at least it makes a little bit of sense 
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No I don’t remember Zergs crying about nerfs honestly. I’ve seen more people mention Zerg whining than finding actual Zerg whine post.
Right, why wouldn’t I cherry pick the data you want to be relevant? You take 300,000 people say that you know why they chose what they did, then cry when I won’t believe you…
The truth is, it just hurts your little Zerg feelings to know how much easier you have it and how much less you’d have accomplished with any other race.
No, I am comparing lower league representation to popularity across all races. The result is clear: popularity determines lower league representation, which is why proportional representation in higher leagues in relation to total population is such an asinine argument.
Buddy I’m not the one that got traumatized by batz so hard he changed his name to a barcode LOL
There’s literally no argument that Zerg is harder. Not one. The best you bunch of tool boxes has come up with is that your race is harder… proved by the fact that you have more MMR.
I turned that little girl out so hard he left the forums. The fact that you can actually bring up that guy defeating me at anything unironically is a testament to just how far a brain dead Zerg’s mammary glands will go to defend his weak little ego.
Except for the argument that I’ve repeatedly given to you in which popularity determines lower league representation, evidenced by the fact that the total difference in population between terran and zerg is nearly equivalent to their total difference in population in gold and below, or the fact that the proportional lower league representation between all races scale with population…
Idk who you’re tryna fool buddy, everyone knows batz is still here…
Right. I remember. That’s what’s called “a brain dead assumption.”
You have zero idea why anyone chooses anything. You just picked the explanation that best spares your fragile ego.
Yeah. I’ve often thought you were a Batz alt, tbh. Not a whole lot of people can actually repeat the mantra “Zerg has more MMR because they’re harder,” with a straight face.
You’re not nearly stupid enough to believe that, so it’s just you trying to spare your own feelings.
Right, the difference in population between terran and zerg just happen to be almost entirely made up of gold and below players, the difference in lower league representation between t, p, and z all just happen to scale proportionally with total population .
The ‘why’ people pick a race is largely irrelvant to my argument itself, my point has been that lower league players do not pick zerg, thus using proportional representation in higher leagues in relation to total playerbase % is an asinine argument as popularity determines lower league representation, not higher leagues’…
If you wanna harp on me for attributing difficulty as the reason zerg playerbase is the lowest, especially since it’s decreased 3-4% from the last 2 years of zerg nerfs, go ahead
Right, everybody that doesn’t buy into your grandiose delusions of zerg players being gifted an entire league’s worth of mmr is a batz alt 
It is pretty easy to actually prove that playing zerg does not award “free MMR”. If it did, the player MMR distribution of terran and zerg would be the exact same curve but shifted by this free X MMR given to the zerg players.
And it is simply not. After actually taking the data available from aligulac, the distribution of both terran and zerg MMR both fit a normal distribution, but while the average MMR for zerg is higher, the variance in that case is significantly lower. This can be explained in a variety of ways, the simplest of which is that terran is preferred by new, casual or inexperienced players.
If this was solely explained by some “noticeable difficulty difference favoring zerg” that gave players this free league worth of MMR, then the variance would be either the same or much similar. In this case, it is not, it is considerably lower. Not saying any race is easier or harder, just that, if the MMR difference cannot be explained by this “free MMR” shifting the curve upwards. If zerg was easier, this effect is negligible compared to the other factors in the MMR curve.
considering that Terran is the easiest race for a person who has played RTS games before to pick up, (having a similar style to many RTS in the terms of making buildings and units), this is completely believable.
anyone who has ever played an RTS before should be able to understand the core of how Terran is played with ease.
Dark’s entire LOTV career reads like a cautionary tale for aspiring sc2 players. He’s gotten screwed over by balance more times than I can count.
Except for the one that you’ve consistently ignored or tried to explain away, over and over and over again. GSL winrates during all of lotv. But as usual, you’ll point to aligulac including qualifier data or the EU scene which has approximately zero good terrans
Like, seriously, heromarine? uthermal? wake me up when you have ANY players that can win premier tournaments against koreans. The only premier they’ve won between the both of them was when uthermal proxy 3 rax reapered every game at iem shanghai and- oh wait that was mostly EU and chinese server players xD The only koreans were violet and hydra… Such impressive wins! Such storied careers! When will blizzard stop oppressing these GODS of starcraft? xD
This games community is a joke
GSL win rates come down to individual players. Why do you Zergs always complain about “GSL?” Because it’s easier to cherry pick a single tournament, where your best two players (Serral and Raynor) don’t compete, the format favor Terran, and is only won by a handful of players (mostly Innovation and Maru).
I said it before and I’ll say it again. IF your point is:
-Terran is an incredibly challenging race
-Evidenced by the lower MMR, lower pro representation outside of Korea, and very poor pro win rates over all
-BUT, in the hands of a few Masterful players, it is overpowered
Then I can talk to someone who has a nuanced opinion. But if your feeling is (because that’s all it can be):
-Terran has a few players that tend to win a single prestigious tournament
-This is because of imbalance
-Terran players have less MMR, less pro representation, and lower professional win rates
-This is because all 100,000 Terran players are “just bad”
Then that’s the stupidest rationalization I can even think of.
Dark’s entire career is in lotv…
Or in other words:
“Rather than looking at the major leagues, I prefer to look at the little league because I’m the embodiment of learned helplessness. Why would you examine pros at the top of the curve when you can bicker about nobodies who never won a single premier tournament vs koreans?”
I’ll repeat, wake me up when you have players worth talking about. Until then you’re wasting your breath.
Wow, it’s almost like you didn’t understand my point.
Yes, Rogue and Dark almost hitting 1 million in earnings let alone Serral all in Lotv but Ace thinks they’ve been screwed over by balance because back in 2016 when there was 2 too many terrans. You have no point.
I guess neither does Dark because he’s said the same thing himself. shrugs clearly thrasher is a god of starcraft knowledge and all must bow before him.
If only we could read SoO’s letter then we will know how bad Zergs really have it… Great come back…
No. I’m look at all leagues. All Stats. All pros. All professional games. All tournaments.
Terran has less MMR. Terran is under-represented at every higher league. Terran has fewer pros. BUT they do just fine at the Korean Premier Tournament level.
If you explanation for that is “all 100,000 Terran players are just bad and Zerg is harder,” then you know how stupid that sounds and I shouldn’t have to tell you.