What's up with the Viking? no buff?

Stop being a gold leaguer. Test it out yourself. Go to a unit tester and actually test these units out instead of spouting nonsense. “Hey guys… viking too weak vs tempest.” Come on man. You even think vikings lose to stalkers on the ground. There’s a reason you’re in gold league.

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Change your race, you obviously don’t know how to use Protoss.

Keep playing Terran. Clearly you know how to play your race better than I do mine. At least that’s what the balance team thinks, given I’m no longer allowed to kill a single Terran air unit and my obs speed had to be nerfed cause you misplaced a scan and blamed Toss for it. Keep it up.

A few more patches and you might get to GSL.

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Man, I understand that you feel frustrated about some balance issues.

Just discuss with other players nicely to see if we share the same view.
Charging in aggressively at others won’t solve anything.

So you do agree?..or?

There’s nothing to discuss. I’m not blind. I even tested everything out in the unit tester to verify how incompetent and biased the balance team is. After years and years of Terran whining, Protoss has zero late game.

How many units do you guys have that can counter the carrier? Viking, bc, marine, thor, libs… the list is endless.

Nothing kills BCs. Nothing even comes remotely close to killing a fleet of BCs. That’s fine… though. Ofc, the biggest problem with the matchup is someone in a lower league still thinks Terran anti air units aren’t good enough cause a storm damaged his viking while he was watching anime.

Enough is enough. Test the units out and then come back and say a single thing, sans maybe storm, was accurate. Do you have any idea how badly vikings kill tempest? Like, it’s a joke.

If you even manage to lose a game where a tempest was made, you seriously messed up, because that unit isn’t viable against jack in this game.

Nothing is weak against storm when EMP is good against everything. People tech to ghosts whether Toss is getting storm or not. It’s so stupid to me.

It’s like saying you need to buff templars because EMP is good against it. Omg… something is good against something. The f do you even need vikings to have zero weaknesses for? How much anti air could you possibly need? Everything you have is designed to own air. Is a thor weak against storm?

An embarrassment of riches, while I get exited over simply seeing a unit shoot up.

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Stalkers kill BC. if you let Terran to go Mass BC it’s your own fault.

A unit that takes 30 shots to kill a BC is the answer (if it’s not being repaired and doesn’t just teleport away…). Stop. My god. Yet, vikings, which annihilate tempests, don’t kill them. Amazing.

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Tempest has to be redesign, as some other units. They were good before people got really good at countering it. Now they are good only if you are really ahead.

I have no idea where you even come up with this stuff. Way more creative than I could even dream of being. Really hard to figure out how to counter the tempest… was really hard to turn on the PC…

If you have problems defending early BC harass with stalkers, you are a complete noob.

Just stop. Stop saying dumb and random/irrelevant stuff…

A game tonight (mcanning vs supernova). This is what it looks like when a similar supply of BCs teleports on top of “Toss’ anti air.”
h ttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/523902888?t=01h00m15s

I don’t even have a big problem with BCs just clowning on stalkers and archons. Tech units should be pretty good. That’s the problem, though… carriers and tempest could NOT be any more worthless against Terran.

Carriers have never ever been remotely as good as the BC is now. No one cares, though. The tempest is 10x more useless than any other unit has been. No one cares. 25 HP… that will do the trick. B s.

It’s embarrassing playing this matchup. It’s on par with slavery in terms of fairness. Might be more unfair. Should get a tax write off or something with all of this donation. All this matchup is is free points for the Terran.

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you just said “Nothing kills BC”

Yeah… and? What, are you stupid? Did you see something that looked like it could counter BCs? Is your “gotcha” that 1 BC lost to 200 archons? Is that really where we’re going?

I wonder why you’re not making a post about the BC needs to be better against 'x." Oh, that’s right… the BC is what you want the viking to be, where it’s not even weak against anything, even in theory. This is on the balance team. Pathetic.

Test it out for me. Let me know what realistic supply beats BCs. You know 50 vikings and 6 ravens can beat 100 stalkers (200 supply of stalkers)? That’s the unit that is countered by stalkers, in your mind.

Is that all you can do ? 3 times you did that.

it’s nobody s fault here that your Race is in this situation.

Insulting other players won’t solve anything.

Address exactly this question to The balance Team.

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What do you think 99% of my posts are about? This disparity is only the most broken thing to ever exist in the game. I’m 19-1 now against Toss, at GM MMR on Korea. Meanwhile, I lose P vs T games despite having nearly double the army value.

It’s amazing how you can fare when your opponent is forced to use equal/balanced units. On one hand, you get free wins. On the other hand, I gotta be thankful to beat a gold leaguer, cause he managed to whine his way into all of his units being invincible.

I’m not even joking. I’d be fist pumping if I beat you. Guy who doesn’t even know that vikings beat stalkers or tempests or anything else.

Why do you think everyone goes stalker, sentry colossi all-in. No one is trying to tech to storm. No one is making tempests. No one is making carriers. Colossus is as good as it will ever get. If you go mass zealots, just going to lose to mass liberators. All you can do is mass stalkers, and colossi and then hope to god somehow your opponent dies.

If your opponent turtles with tanks and liberators, just leave the game.

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In PvT pro games i didnt saw any P all-in in long time … meta is p have greedy opening fast tech to colossi to stop first pressure . then they transition to disruptor+storm … terrans makes last push(before there is too much disruptors) if P survive they in most cases won the game.

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Really you can’t deal with tanks and Liberators Turtle? My question is what Terran unit composition can you deal with it???..

Ok, I need to call your parents, you will be grounding for weeks if they see this thread.

You don’t win P vs T, so I can’t beat any compositions. My last game was vs a pretty high GM on Korea. I won vs the Terran. Correction: he lost. You’d have to be a moron to think you control whether you win or not in this matchup.

No one is good enough to control winning something as imbalanced as this matchup. Only neeb is remotely good enough or knowledgeable enough to claim he actually won rather than the incompetent opponent somehow found a way to lose.

After a couple of days playing this game, I was beyond Gold league, and I’d legit be happy to beat you now. That’s how good you have it in this matchup. It is what it is. It’s sad but true. Moreover, I’d be surprised if I won.

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