Carriers by itself die to corruptors. It becomes problematic, when protoss adds voids and some zergs engage in the fight, when voids use prismatic alignment. Really hard it gets on the top level, where protoss focus fire your corruptors with archons, ht spam storms, feedback etc. But why would carriers by itself be the problem? Usually the issue is ht, which is being protected by the carriers and not carriers itself.
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Corrupter dude, just plain corrupters. stutter step and focus down the carriers. not hard to do at all. I play zerg 3v3 all the time and have taken on more than one skytoss using carriers with corruptors. hell if they dont have more than five or six, mutas can take them very easy. Also if you can keep mutas ahead of the carriers interceptors you can widdle down the interceptor count till they are completely out then go in for the kill. carriers are not hard to counter what so ever. Even enough hydralisk will out gun the interceptors if you can stay ahead of them. Boy you whine about some of the easiest things to counter in this game. Seriously none of you guys have any brains.
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Carrier be fine unit having catapult while zerg had infested terran for now zerg need cooruptors as always focus fire while fungal interceptor and use shroud
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It’s still 2022 and we are still observing monkey screech behavior. If you find your opponent is massing only carriers, you have mass corruptors. If you see multiple void rays, get vipers and/or infestors. If there are high templars, get some ultralisks. It’s hard, but it’s not rocket science. Zerg has every tool it needs to beat Protoss late game. Both armies get harder to control, and while Protoss tends to have the easier to control army, Zerg is more powerful overall.
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These threads are so common here. Look, the shield battery shouldn´t be able to target air units. Then beef the air units a little bit.
I agree, two people with the same mechanical skill, if Zerg allows skytoss to essentially “creep” its defenses, it cant push them away. It will always lose below Diamond.
Your only hope is to not allow them to gain too many bases while banking bases and larva yourself. But again, that requires more “mechanical skill” too. Your other option is to break them before they get to that point, meaning don´t go 3 Hatcheries.
Essentially you have to be better in mechanics to beat this type of Toss.
But the Toss can´t make a single mistake early on. It has to know its build order, it has to effectively scout you, it has to not overextend, etc.
But yeah, as much as I try to defend the balance, which I think is fine…this makes for some pretty toxic games - gameplay wise.
The “can this unit be defeated?” balance is fine indeed.
You can beat a carrier.
It’s the “effort required to defeat carriers VS effort required to play carriers” balance which is completely broken.
You need twice the IQ of your opponent to defeat carriers.
Of course there are solutions to beat carriers, but they’re very hard to execute for the average player.
Not every SC2 player is in masters and can manage 3 spellcasters, move spores constantly and deal with storms while spreading creep and keeping up with inject + harassment at the same time.
And again, even if you do pull it off, you Protoss opponent wasn’t making nearly as much effort as you were throughout the game. They just don’t need to be as good as you are to beat you once this unit is on the battlefield.
“Don’t let them get there” is just proof that the unit is broken by the way.
When Zerg and Terran make their “ultimate” late game units, there are still obvious counters and nobody cares. Broodlords can’t shoot air and move extremely slowly for example. Carriers have no such drawbacks.
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“Dont let them get there” was invented vs zerg. The whole Idea to Play vs zerg is to Not letting them get there. If you leave zerg untouched they macro Up way faster than you and have massive Bank and massive larva.
Zerg Players dont seem to understand this concept and thus their strength. Sometimes its better and easier to Deal with Something right away instead of waiting until its a massive Problem.
You can intercept the protoss while He builds Up which is pretty easy and you can Always trade for Carriers to prevent reaching a crit Mass or you can sit there passively until it grows a Problem.
Stop whining. Jeez.
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And because of that the casual playerbase go slowly dying
After the casuals are gone, the game will follow them to the grave
Then the elitists on the foruns will gather and ask themselves, confused, what happened to the game? “the noobs didn’t learn to play” someone will answer
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If “the swarmy race should attack the expensive but tough race before you cant effectively outnumber them due to the supply cap” is too difficult for people to understand, I dont think it really matters what they think or like. Its a real time strategy game. At some point theyre going to have to figure out strategy.
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dude you still sitting here complaining about carriers. The people told you how to defend against them. mass corrupter, click on carrier, click off carrier, click on carrier, click off carrier, click on carrier, click off carrier. Its not hard to do.
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If carrier be like old glory power it may hard to beat but not on those time where bunch of marine shoot down all interceptor
please stop drinking and posting. What you said is incomprehensible
Bruh i don’t drink at all
first off dude, not your bruh, second if you werent drinking, please go back to school and learn how to make proper sentances that people can actually understand what you are saying.
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I’m by no means an English native but I’m pretty sure “sentence” is spelled “sentence”.
no matter how you spell a word, it still sounds the same in your head when you read it.
That may be accurate, but I still somehow feel like you should speak proper English before you start flaming people specifically about the way they speak, and especially if you’re telling them they need to go back to school as well.
dude did you read the post inquestion, its sounds like the dude is drunk, it litterally makes no sense whatsoever.
and im not flaming him for the way he speaks, im flaming him for sounding like a drunk incoherent baffoon.
What he wanted to say is that carriers back then were much stronger and nowadays they even die to marines.
I guess mostly he aimed at the graviton catapult nerf.