And of course it doesn’t talk about balance throughout the whole player population. Balance at the bottom doesn’t matter. If you aren’t at the top your problems aren’t race balance or mechanics but your own inability to play the game.
I am sick and tired of hearing this statement. It is a flat out lie. Are you going to sit hear and tell everyone that plays the game and watches the game that balance only matters for 10 or so players. That is trash. That is garbage. No one really believes that bull.
The reason people really say this is because they do not want to face the truth. That this game is broken and PvX is broken. What does it even mean when somene says “get better”… They say this without putting anytning incontext. doesnt matter that P made the same amount of “mistakes” that you made. Doesnt matter that they play at the same speed that you play at. Its get better. Play like Maru, Play like serral.
In reality some people are mimicking Maru, and Serral. So why dont we get the same results. Well its because they play faster. No amount of practice is ever going to get us to play exactly like them becuase it is the speed that they play at the sepaarates them but I digress
At the end of the day that is just a lazy response by someone that is wanting to defend their race no matter what. At all levels of play PvX always play out the same.
PvT P is up 1 to 2 bases. you to bio they go mass splash. you go mech they go mass I.A.C and/or disupters and there is nothing that you can do about it. I’ll get into why this is a problem in another thread. but I’ll give you a hint. It is hard counters.
In PvZ its turtle to max army and A move across the map. Recently it is turtle to sky toss and Amove across the map with mass splash damage options as support. One M1/GM player even said they dont even care if they storm their own army. It doesnt matter.
100%. This community stupidly thinks every win/loss between the top players is because of balance. When you’re looking at a pool of like 15 players the difference in skill plays a way bigger factor than balance. Although I’m sure some forum geniuses will tell me that the top 5 players of every race are equal in skill because of “proportional representation” lol.
So what…? Yeah. So what.
Imagine being in galaxy with only three most dominant races left (all other played out). One of them most super race (protoss as you claim). Who said it had to be equal and balanced just who? Galaxy admistration? Universal laws of physics?
I give you what to think now. Just dont give a two pennies about race inequality. Just play race you want and try enjoy some thing despite you would most often lose to op races and players. And accept there may be i balancies at the galaxy race wars…
Balance went to crap when David Kim left sc2 and some clowns figured balancing around tournament wins was a good idea. Serral is the most dominant player ever and forum whiners pretend that makes Zerg strong. As a result Zerg is nerfed into the ground and practically extinct on ladder.
Everyone isnt serral everyone is maru. The game should never be balanced around a few players. The only reason I can think of to why they would/did do it is becuase of the money that is generated from tournaments. If you think about it the same 5 to 6 people are winning all the tournaments despite how they are balancing the game so why they do so is asanine.
I am sure that the ladder noobs that want to protect their win percentages like the game balanced as is. Especially toss players. I am sure that pro players like the way that it is balanced becuase it keeps anyone new from showing up on the scene and potentially taking money out of their pockets by winning tournaments and I am sure who ever makes money from forum post wants to keep the game balanced as is. (if they actually balanced th game I would stop making threads. I am also sure that content creators like the way the game is balanced as well so they can make money on how not to die. If the game was balanced they would have to make videos based on strategy/tactics and you can only make so many of those
Everyone is making money off the game being broken and the people who want a good experience take long breaks away from the game or leave all together.
It doesn make it right. but as I like to always say money talks.
One interesting thing to note is that there still is a skill gap even at the pro level. This is what we’re seeing:
1. Protoss has good representation in terms of the number of protoss tournament qualifiers at the general professional level, but has the lowest representation at the very highest professional level. 2. Zerg has the lowest representation at the general pro level, but has been showing the best standings at the highest tournament levels until very recently. 3. Terran has good representation over all.
while we like seeing very solid results at the pro level, we are also always working towards a balanced experience across all skill levels
How did we go from this when the game first came out to well the game is balanced for the pro scene.
How did we go from wanting to try to make the game fun for everyone to the game being the crap who that it is.
How did I go from never making a post about the game to wanting answers from the bliz team.
I understand that they had good intentions. Maybe they went to far and fixed things that worked. but at this point Changes over the past 3 + year need to be reverted. and the bliz team needs to start over.
Also its like I’ve always said they balance the game to aritificially get win results. this is not fun. In one sentence they say we are balaned the game for all skill levels and in the very next sentence say we want winrats and we want pro level to have a certain representation at the top. You cant do both. This is not fun I dont know any other way to say it.
One thing that is certain is that the current balance of the game is broken
Probably because David Kim and the majority of the people who worked on sc2 left. We got left with the B team who don’t know anything about measuring balance.
honestly winpercentages for every league as well as, overall win percentages should be included to detemining how the match ups are going. At least that is how it used to be. At least that what they told us. They have strayed so far away that the game feels broken.
I just wish they let the player base determine what the meta and play styles shoule be and whoever comes out on top is the best player. They way it is now. there are buffs and nerfs depending on what they want the out comes to be. Its all artificial. But hey Protoss isnt winning The majar tourname so lets buff them again. Who cares about those ladder noobs
While balancing at the top may not be the perfect choice, but hey the pro’s salary depends on the balance. They have all the right to complain if the balance is what affecting their plays.
Everyone want things to be ideally balanced, but there is no such thing even if many believe one exist, just like there is no ideal build order.
So where wore you at beginning of LOTV when Blizz asked hey guys do you wanna slower game? Why wore you silenced back than why all threads wore o trust me guys game speed is good ul be sorry if game is slower 1 you git gud and so on why cry about speed now?
LOL, those dimwits are asking to square the circle. As long as the 2000-7400MMR range plays a single SC2 that is clearly impossible, so they balance for the Highest Level of Play aka. Pro-Players.
The dimwits are asking to have a flavor of SC2 for each League. But at least they can ask that and not harass people here with their disgusting whine.
Yes im not one of them… There are also those that need to whine every single time the Terran loses… this is stupid even to me. The sooner this forum distinguishes the two kinds, the smarter they will become. That is not to say I dont agree with certain… let’s call them design issues in TvP but you cant blame balance every time you see your fave pro player lost, speaking about pro games
