Build Queens, if that doesn't work just build even more Queens

Banshees?. Build Queens and 1 spore

Oracles?. Build Queens and 1 spore

Voidrays?. Build Queens and 1 spore

Phoenix?. Build Queens and 1 spore

BCs?. Build even more Queens and 1 spore

Liberator?. Build Queens and 1 spore

Raven?. Build Queens and 1 spore

Vikings?. Build Queens

Warp Prism?. Build Queens.

Hellions?. Build Queens

Reapers?. Build Queens

Adepts?. Build Queens.

Mutalisk?. Build Queens and 1 spore

Medivac drops?. Build Queens.

Zealots?. Build Queens

Marines?. Build Queens

Zerglings?. Build Queens

Banelings?. Build Queens

DT’s?. Build Queens and 1 spore

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I can do that too!
Banshees?. Build Marines and 1 Turret

Oracles?. Build Marines and 1 Turret

Phoenix?. Build Marines and 1 Turret

BCs?. Build even more Marines and 1 Turret

Liberator?. Build Marines and 1 Turret

Raven?. Build Marines and 1 Turret

Vikings?. Build Marines

Warp Prism?. Build Marines.

Hellions?. Build Marines

Reapers?. Build Marines

Adepts?. Build Marines

Mutalisk?. Build Marines and 1 Turret

Medivac drops?. Build Marines

Zealots?. Build Marines

Queens?. Build Marines

Zerglings?. Build Marines

Banelings?. Split Marines

DT’s?. Build Marines and 1 Turret

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You fall behind.

You fall behind.

That works.

You immediately lose the game.

You fall behind.

You fall behind.

Not really a harass unit.

You either fall behind or immediately die.

You’re either safe or immediately die depending on the number of hellions.

You immediately die.

You’re either safe or immediately die depending on the number of adepts.

Maybe you need an additional turret on your production line.

You immediately die.

That is actually a good counter!

You’re in a very dicey position and have the potential to just die.

In the context of defending an all in you just die.

More than 1 turret per mineral line and/or scans.

Do you now see how much more complex it is for the Terran player to hold aggression?

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myohmind, are you schizophrenic?

one day, youre almost reasonable, when it comes to balance discussion. other days… you open up f.e. this thread.

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Yeah sorry dude, that’s a really bad false equivalency.

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This thread is about proving a point. If you cannot harass Zerg almost at all no matter what you do and what you use because they just build Queens, that massively hurts build diversity and it causes Zerg to snowball into the mid game where if you don’t kill them pre-hive you are likely going to struggle if not eventually lose in the late game against them unless the Zerg goes full Idra and messes up big time repeatedly.

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ok, what about terrans, who camp behind wallin + tanks? is there any viable lair tech for zerg, which breaks that? only things that comes to my mind is sh, but against bio… great idea. and oh wait, theres whine about sh since forever for that reason xD

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If that happens Terran has already lost the game or is about to all in. Please keep your silver level knowledge to yourself.

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if you say so… waste of time to try to discuss with a terran apologist xD

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There is when about SH’s because it’s a terrible unit design that breaks all rules involving siege units in SC2.

Nydus and Mutalisk.

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if the terran is atleast gold, he will have vision over his base, which means, nydus wont get into that base.

and muta… lol. 2-3 turrets in your base + a thor and you laugh at muta.

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So you are a 3 base lair tech Zerg against a 1 base Terran sitting in the base with tanks.

Just macro up and get 200/200. He will die.

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I thought he was talking about turtling on 2 bases.

I thought he was talking about turtling on 2 bases.

He never specified…

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That’s true so I just tried to take an educated guess.

whos talking about 1base lol…

lets say 2 base. theres no way for zerg to finish that game before the 10 minute mark, if the terran isnt a donkey. even if youre ahead like 2 bases.

RR Max

LB Max

Like you are playing vs Protoss.

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“Winning isn’t enough, I’m going to whine if I don’t win fast enough.”

How entitled are you people?

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The balance team did nerf Auto-Turret cast range from 3 to 1, and then made it 2(which is way too small of a cast range still, should be fully reverted to 3 range) because Zergs complained about Auto-Turret harass even when it was rarely seen and they had 8 range Queens.

So very entitled.

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I’m more mad about the reaper change. I could and might write an essay post on the forums about it.

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