Banshees?. Build Queens and 1 spore
Oracles?. Build Queens and 1 spore
Voidrays?. Build Queens and 1 spore
Phoenix?. Build Queens and 1 spore
BCs?. Build even more Queens and 1 spore
Liberator?. Build Queens and 1 spore
Raven?. Build Queens and 1 spore
Vikings?. Build Queens
Warp Prism?. Build Queens.
Hellions?. Build Queens
Reapers?. Build Queens
Adepts?. Build Queens.
Mutalisk?. Build Queens and 1 spore
Medivac drops?. Build Queens.
Zealots?. Build Queens
Marines?. Build Queens
Zerglings?. Build Queens
Banelings?. Build Queens
DT’s?. Build Queens and 1 spore
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I can do that too!
Banshees?. Build Marines and 1 Turret
Oracles?. Build Marines and 1 Turret
Phoenix?. Build Marines and 1 Turret
BCs?. Build even more Marines and 1 Turret
Liberator?. Build Marines and 1 Turret
Raven?. Build Marines and 1 Turret
Vikings?. Build Marines
Warp Prism?. Build Marines.
Hellions?. Build Marines
Reapers?. Build Marines
Adepts?. Build Marines
Mutalisk?. Build Marines and 1 Turret
Medivac drops?. Build Marines
Zealots?. Build Marines
Queens?. Build Marines
Zerglings?. Build Marines
Banelings?. Split Marines
DT’s?. Build Marines and 1 Turret
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You fall behind.
You fall behind.
That works.
You immediately lose the game.
You fall behind.
You fall behind.
VichelChaos:
Vikings?. Build Marines
Not really a harass unit.
You either fall behind or immediately die.
VichelChaos:
Hellions?. Build Marines
You’re either safe or immediately die depending on the number of hellions.
VichelChaos:
Reapers?. Build Marines
You immediately die.
VichelChaos:
Adepts?. Build Marines
You’re either safe or immediately die depending on the number of adepts.
Maybe you need an additional turret on your production line.
VichelChaos:
Zealots?. Build Marines
You immediately die.
VichelChaos:
Queens?. Build Marines
That is actually a good counter!
You’re in a very dicey position and have the potential to just die.
In the context of defending an all in you just die.
More than 1 turret per mineral line and/or scans.
Do you now see how much more complex it is for the Terran player to hold aggression?
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myohmind, are you schizophrenic?
one day, youre almost reasonable, when it comes to balance discussion. other days… you open up f.e. this thread.
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Yeah sorry dude, that’s a really bad false equivalency.
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This thread is about proving a point. If you cannot harass Zerg almost at all no matter what you do and what you use because they just build Queens, that massively hurts build diversity and it causes Zerg to snowball into the mid game where if you don’t kill them pre-hive you are likely going to struggle if not eventually lose in the late game against them unless the Zerg goes full Idra and messes up big time repeatedly.
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ok, what about terrans, who camp behind wallin + tanks? is there any viable lair tech for zerg, which breaks that? only things that comes to my mind is sh, but against bio… great idea. and oh wait, theres whine about sh since forever for that reason xD
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If that happens Terran has already lost the game or is about to all in. Please keep your silver level knowledge to yourself.
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if you say so… waste of time to try to discuss with a terran apologist xD
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There is when about SH’s because it’s a terrible unit design that breaks all rules involving siege units in SC2.
Dalai:
ok, what about terrans, who camp behind wallin + tanks? is there any viable lair tech for zerg, which breaks that?
Nydus and Mutalisk.
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anon79962274:
Nydus and Mutalisk.
if the terran is atleast gold, he will have vision over his base, which means, nydus wont get into that base.
and muta… lol. 2-3 turrets in your base + a thor and you laugh at muta.
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Dalai:
if the terran is atleast gold, he will have vision over his base, which means, nydus wont get into that base.
and muta… lol. 2-3 turrets in your base + a thor and you laugh at muta.
So you are a 3 base lair tech Zerg against a 1 base Terran sitting in the base with tanks.
Just macro up and get 200/200. He will die.
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I thought he was talking about turtling on 2 bases.
That’s true so I just tried to take an educated guess.
whos talking about 1base lol…
lets say 2 base. theres no way for zerg to finish that game before the 10 minute mark, if the terran isnt a donkey. even if youre ahead like 2 bases.
RR Max
LB Max
Like you are playing vs Protoss.
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“Winning isn’t enough, I’m going to whine if I don’t win fast enough.”
How entitled are you people?
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The balance team did nerf Auto-Turret cast range from 3 to 1, and then made it 2(which is way too small of a cast range still, should be fully reverted to 3 range) because Zergs complained about Auto-Turret harass even when it was rarely seen and they had 8 range Queens.
So very entitled.
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I’m more mad about the reaper change. I could and might write an essay post on the forums about it.
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