So Hanzo’s 1 shot crit returns with a slower charge rate and removal of the S9 increased projectile size… fair enough.
But Widow keeps her 1 shot, maintains the S9 bullet size increase, and her usual charge rate?
Ppl may call Hanzo “random” or “luck”, but consistently hitting travel time projectiles with bullet drop over distance isn’t luck. It’s a lot harder than placing your crosshair over a head hitbox
She already got it; they dramatically lowered her health, and I think she does have a different bullet size. Did they undo those nerfs?
Personally, I think her ammo should just be lowered to where she has three shots in sniper mode before she has to reload. Someone said “but that would cause issues for her AR mode”, but I don’t think it would. Just make the sniper shots take more ammo and do nothing to the actual ammo count.
I asked if they undid or changed those nerfs in some way, and judging by your response I’d say they did. I don’t know why you can’t just say that instead of going “WHAT?! NO! THAT’S A LIE! THAT’S A LIE!”. You could just say I’m confused.
Something tells me you’ll be waiting for a while 
That’s fine and all.
But I’m just gonna keep pushing back on people if they pull nonsense like that.
She was 175hp in OW1, and you wanna act like the starting point is 200hp, when comparing the two.
Well, specifically I answered a question but also asked if I was wrong and the nerfs were undone. You could have said “Oh no, they undid those nerfs” and said when, but instead you chose extreme hostility and socially awkward outrage. I’m not required to respect that or you, and I’m not required to apologize when you’re the bad faith one.
Have fun with your weird emotional outbursts if that’s your sort of thing, but leave me out of it.
Well, you see, because that sentence went
You pretend to care about “context” but you omit the part where I’m literally saying “Am I wrong. If I am, tell me.” Quote my whole sentence next time you idiot, don’t stop reading and then respond to me without the full context. Why are YOU like this? Even people on reddit aren’t too pleased when you show up, and this is why. You’re an arrogant fool who picks fights even when you’re nothing but wrong.
The argument about the health nerf is irrelevant anyway. It did nothing to harm her viability. So even IF we were to call it a nerf rather than a reversion, it’s a worthless one.
Sight fine. I am over-reacting. Pissed off about something else.
I am sorry.
I still very much disagree with the 200hp starting point, but I don’t need to be a jerk about it.
That said, I’m was also contemplating how the devs haven’t meaningfully changed Widow
at.
all.
, in OW2 compared to OW1.
And every plausible explanation gets me kind mad at the devs for not bothering to do anything about it, besides increasing the strength of her counters, which then need to go even higher because of all the heal pocketing, increased peel tools.
Then add to that, they specifically went with a regen passive that benefited solo-flankers.
And they’ve basically done jack about Widow this entire time, besides amp up her counters, which then causes a bunch of upset in the community.
There’s something very wrong going on with how the devs look at heroes, unless they are making a ridiculous amount of money from Widow and Hanzo skins.
She lost the bullet size increase. Just FYI.
To your other point, she has a different set of disadvantages. Like she doesn’t have storm arrows for example. And she does have a reload. Her HP is lower than Hanzo’s.
All that said, I don’t think either hero should have a 1-shot. I’d love to see both lose it.
Honestly, I thought up the perfect Widow nerf.
It directly targets Widow pockethealing, and also messes with her regen and healthpack usage.
Which might not mean Widow dies more, necessarily, but she’s gonna have more downtime either way.
I don’t care about any apology. I’m consistently confused at not only you, but this forum as a whole and many people’s ability to be egregiously bad faith and actively combative at the most innocuous things. All you had to do was finish reading one line, just a few words, but instead you blew up seemingly at random
I have to come to the conclusion that most of you WANT confrontation. It’s as simple as “Start a fight.” and “Don’t start a fight.” and the first option is much more appealing to the vast majority of this forum. I’d say there’s a reason the devs don’t even like this place, but is there a point? Who still here would care?
Well, I basically highly value authenticity.
And yeah, I’m not a big fan of apples to oranges comparisons.
Or apples to vague catchphrase comparisons.
I got a lot less patience for the “Technically I didn’t say that verbatim” game a lot of people play. In an effort to claim both sides of a position through plausible deniability.
But yeah, still whether or not the apology is accepted. I’m sorry.
And thank you for snapping me out of “pissed off” headspace I was in.
But yeah, otherwise it’s pretty aggravating how much the devs bend the entire Overwatch ecosystem around Widow and Ana.
And I genuinely can’t tell why.
Because the side-effects really are not worth whatever possible reason they could have.
She lost some of it. Still went from none to 0.05. Was 0.08 for a couple weeks, then her and soldier had it nerfed down while other hitscans kept it.
They’ll never give her meaningful nerfs, she’s too popular.
But she’s really not, when compared to how popular the game could be.
Like all the people complaining about Dive Tanks, Kiriko and Sombra.
Well, blame Widow. Because those heroes are scaled to be able to deal with Widow.
But with a bit of pocketing, even that doesn’t work.
that would be a buff. Her Sniper currently consumes 5 ammo. giving her 7 shots per 35 round magazin. Previously she had a 30 round mag but consumed 3 ammo for a sniper shot totaling in 10 shots per magazin.
her charge rate was nerfed multiple times. she has less health then hanzo, is more stationary, is a free kill upclose, her bullet size was nerfed a week after S9 (but I would not mind nerfing it to before S9) etc.
If you sell deathball brawl no one will touch this game after 10 days, only reason brawl is cute 
is cause poke pummels it.
Weak dive and no strong poke would be a garbage game.
Might as well make it isimetric.moba or a card game.
Her usual charge rate was 30% faster, but you didn’t play the game these days I guess. Feel the equality now.
The last time they changed her charge rate was feb 2020 you need to get over it
That old charge rate is no longer her “normal” charge rate