The mercy nerf feels AWFUL

[Cleopatra-21937]

@Shrinkray-1853

IMHO, the Dev’s just want Mercy to die more. Above everything else, be it damage boost, resurrect, or whatever different groups take issue with…Mercy must first die more than she currently does.

So, just even more cautious gameplay and boosting snipers far away from combat, got it.

[joeMama-11543]

It’s not that bad , did t even feel like she was nerfed lol

[Shrinkray-1853]

@androidrainb-1354

This is such a stupid angle to take.

I agree completely. It’s certainly not my desire for Mercy. Survivability is her game for me.

It just looks to me that the Devs seem to be set on slowing her down somehow, to allow people to catch her out. Look how resistant they are to roll back their GA changes, where it’s shorter now than season 3, but only in a way that Mercy rarely uses the ability. I’m not sure the last time I ever “just” hit GA and left it at that.

[IsTheMedia-1302]

Kinda why a lot of Mercy players are so displeased with Skiesti cause she was the most vocal about the omnidirectional movement to be kept in.

Heck Aspen called it in season 1 that GA will be nerfed cause it was so strong-even though Mercy was a bottom tier pick in season 1.

[Magoshy-1857]

@GreyFalcon-11737

Eu pessoalmente escrevi mais da metade de todas as postagens de tópicos de design do Mercy nos fóruns/reddit nos últimos 4 anos…

Ficando um pouco cansado disso.

did they listen to you?

[GreyFalcon-11737]

Maybe

[OW2] Mercy should get a "LifeSteal"

One of the big flaws of Mercy’s design right now is that Her out-of-combat regen is only marginally better than other Supports Other Supports have ways to heal themselves besides Regen. Mercy’s only way to self-heal is through Regen. Here’s a visual comparison of the self-healing rates of all the Supports. So that seems like a straightforward fix to me. Give Mercy a way to selfheal that isn’t the OutOfCombat Regen. Especially since All of Mercy’s capabilities with heals+boo…

[OW2] Mercy, simplified SuperJump+Slingshot

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🕊 Maybe just give Mercy 60hps

[Tatianna-11687]

sorry if this comes off mean falcon but the devs quite literally NEVER look at these forums, 99% chance is that they never even saw your posts

[DoctorSmokes-1341]

Arguing also gets a lot more attention than theory crafting around these parts. Good or bad, informative or not, a thread gets a lot more posts when it creates controversy which doesn’t help in making a bridge of good communication.

[Tatianna-11687]

i mean hey 90% of these 174 replies are just arguments lol

[DoctorSmokes-1341]

Give Your Mercy Thoughts and Ideas

One of the things I already anticipated when I tried making a thread was that a wall of text with inexperienced understand of Mercy’s state and being amicable was obviously not going to be popular.

Even when putting points in purposely for the sake of argument, it is not the same as being luckily blessed by a troll who will bump your thread with 20 posts. In your case or others, this isn’t entirely the same as you, for example, have a positive reputation in the communities. Some others as well, compared to little ol’ nameless me. I am thankful for some respectful individuals sharing their inputs with me at least.

I just wish the method to actually getting something across wasn’t this long, arduous, and fruitless.

[Teddies-11171]

Didn’t read anything but is this another awkward fix + unasked for changes that hinder her playing experience?

Idk, you guys should have realized how they feel about her after she got a non April fools +5 ammo buff.

I would have just stopped at launch ow2 mercy with super jump being made easier and that’s it

[Hige-1101]

just reduce the amount of time GA is disabled and she’s more than fine, like literally cut it in half and that’s it, you can’t spam it and you have 1s downtime

also get rid of crouch to superjump -.- I’m one of the few who got used to directional input superjump, yes it makes you lose sight of the battle but that’s the cost of it, if there was no instant jump button she wouldn’t need nerfs

[Magoshy-1857]

@Lucithrow-1531

What other support gets to ignore positioning and be nearly impossible to kill?

Moira(and she can heal herself with orb)

@Lucithrow-1531

Mercy’s damage boost is damage on top of that being applied by the DPS, while only requiring one set of precise inputs and allowing the Mercy player to completely ignore combat.

her damage boost do almost nothing most of the time

@anon64010814

Sometimes I wonder how many “good mercy mains” would drop in rank immediately if she got buffs to healing, rez and GA but had to aim her beam to heal.

GA make aim her heal near imposible(and the amount would need to be buffed)

@Azrael-13313

Mercy also has comparatively low HPS, self-heal, damage, and kills?

exactly, everything in this comment, to be honest

@Lucithrow-1531

It underperforms in the eyes of people who don’t who misunderstand statistics and do dumb things like compare Ana/Bap’s raw damage to Mercy’s boosted damage, as if that’s some sort of apples to apples comparison.

if another support did 5k damage and mercy boosted 1k, then…

@Lucithrow-1531

When Moira fades away, her target no longer gets healed

lest 3 secs, heal orb

@Lucithrow-1531

Moira is much less problematic than Mercy.

I literally switch to her when I’m having a hard time surviving as a mercy. but yes, she is much less problematic (irony)

@Lucithrow-1531

None of you want any mechanics that would require you to engage with the enemy, take risks or aim.

mercy is my favorite because of the GA, it doesn’t heal itself, it doesn’t run away by itself, and its healing is probably the worst in the game, but at least Blizz gave us 5 more ammo,

seriously, if they keep the bullet speed change from April 1st, I would shoot a lot more, you can take the sympathetic heal, remove the DB and put a grenade effect from the ana or a desh that doesn’t need allies but the distance is smaller, or do this with a zarya-style ray that sucks life from enemies, causing damage and healing you in a small percentage, I just don’t want them to touch my GA (and the ray cure, because it’s impossible to aim no ga(okay… it would be cool if it was like phara’s rockets, only they heal in the area, but that’s kind of Bap)

@Cleopatra-21937

To not make targeting Mercy a waste of everyone’s time, that could be spent gunning down someone more valuable.

It would be comical if it were not tragic

@Lucithrow-1531

How often do you think is fair for Mercy to be able to change direction?

she can’t change direction as easily as you imply, and she’s extremely easy to hit if the person can aim.

@Lucithrow-1531

Other supports manage with only one passive

zenyatta’s passive healing is greater than hers(and his ult let him be imortal), the others manage to heal themselves (kirico has suzu and literally can teleport through the wall to try to escape).

everyone else has an ability to heal (or more)

remembering that in OW1 it was 1.5s and an of tank to help you

@GreyFalcon-11737

You do realize that buffing GA back to where it was, would lower her death rate, right?

but now they put this Ga with placebo time, which takes longer than the previous season, and took away the extra healing she gave

@kongajinken-1805

Yet the devs reverted the one good thing mercy got in the critical healing

TT-TT

@GreyFalcon-11737

If they don’t wanna get rid of that, then you need to think of another way to bring that death rate back down to where it is now.

just take it off and give me my GA back

@Lucithrow-1531

here’s a reason Moira is only a problem in low ranks.

at high rank people can aim, so mercy shouldn’t be a problem, probably that’s why she’s not at the top of the top supports. mercy takes pages and pages to appear,

@GreyFalcon-11737

“Try asking the devs for something else besides a revert”
“Okay how about a revert”

“you are hungry, but we are not going to give you food, try to ask for something different”

@Exiiono-2746

You’ve not paid attention in class. I can’t even begin to count all the times Mercy players will literally just beg GA to be 1.5 and for bliz to just take ANYTHING ELSE away. Its basically all everyone asks for.

tank you

@Lucithrow-1531

Bap has to do this while aiming and doing a host of other things Mercy players need not be concerned with.

bap don’t need to be in the middle of the enemy team to heal

@Lucithrow-1531

1.5S GA with super jump / slingshot is too much mobility

I don’t use super jump in widow’s sight, because it’s ridiculously easy to get hit and killed there, even if her aim isn’t the best, 1.5 is much more than it seems

@Lucithrow-1531

they were both objectively broken

one shot macree combo and critical healing has broken, GA not

@ilovepecs-1441

old superjump being a tech people can’t really pull off until high gold

I use it on bronze

@Lucithrow-1531

No, but simultaneously their ideas are almost all awful. That is what I meant by out of touch with reality. They bemoan losing broken mechanics while suggesting more broken mechanics.

I’m not a game dev

@Lucithrow-1531

Silver players can’t aim up

agree

@kongajinken-1805

They just need to revert to OW1 mercy. But apperently revert is a bad word

not having the off tank, reduces the protection provided to supports, she can’t go back to what she was in OW1, because 5 players changed the game core too much for that

@Flare-12478

I swear Mercy players will never be satisfied until Mercy is the only support worth picking.

she won the position of worst pick after the change in Briguita

@Flare-12478

you’re shouting into the void.

sad but true

@zoopy-11314

Theoretically yes though I believe a lot of hardcore Mercy players get the thrill of playing her through her mobility. Weaving in and out of battle making the seemingly impossible happen and hearing your teammates thank you for it is the fun part of Mercy.

this one knows what he’s talking about

@zoopy-11314

I’m at the point where I wouldn’t mind a complete rework. I’ve adapted all these years, what’s another change?

… same

@Azrael-13313

Somehow you don’t understand that the support that has virtually no significant offensive threat should be hard to kill.

Moira has better damage, kills, HPS, actually becomes completely invincible and cleansed in fade, and doesn’t require a teammate to use her mobility CD.

Mercy is allowed to have good things too.

same to this to. To be honest, this whole comment was perfect

@kongajinken-1805

Nothing, absolutely nothing.

She just keeps losing and losing and losing. Lost her mass rez, lost her instant single rez, lost her mobility, lost her healing which was compensation for her mobility lose. She’s just a sad sorry excuse for a “hero” now.

I always knew that being main mercy was the final signature on the mortuary of my sanity and high esteem, but oh my

TO END
What i would like, first, the DB and the cure stay as they are. in the ult the cure increases to 65. (as it was in s3 it was unfair, but a smaller value and only during the ult I think it would be ok, if necessary, increase the time to ult)

removes the sympathetic cure, reduces the speed of the valkyrie a little for the dps to stop crying(this alone gona make her more killable)

a skill to improve healing for something around 3 to 6 seconds (like Ana’s grenade or bap’s area of healing, or moira’s healing aorb, etc)

increasing the pistol’s ammo travel speed would make mercy more offensive (although in my elo I still manage to kill unsuspecting snipers and more)

there’s a lot of mercy that doesn’t take a weapon, but that’s in low elo, like bronze and silver

don’t touch my GA

[GreyFalcon-11737]

@Magoshy-1857

“you are hungry, but we are not going to give you food, try to ask for something different”

Is there only 1 way to get to the food?

[Magoshy-1857]

you ignore all the options I gave, and you used the same gif, after passing multiple answers saying the same thing, I would say that this puppy suits you a lot

[GreyFalcon-11737]

Looks like a revert, then some buffs

Or “remove damage boost and give her a grenade or dash or something. Or a Zarya laser”

[Aurora-13974]

Maybe a Hot Take but I think this change feels better than Season 3 Mercy did movement wise and I think it could be fine if they made the CD start earlier when you cancel it early.

It feels nice/balanced having GA on 1.5 sec CD and slingshots on a 2-ish sec CD, but feels really bad having short slingshots/SJs have an almost 3 second CD

Just simplify it to:

Normal GA CD is 1.5 sec
Slingshot GA CD is 2 sec

the end

[Cleopatra-21937]

@kongajinken-1805

She just keeps losing and losing and losing.

And I still wonder why.

Don’t mind lack of offensive capabilities, but it just feels like constant cut of power budget available to Mercy.

[Offspring-21761]

Must be a skill issue tbh. I don’t see Mercy’s dying then and not seeing it now

[Jomar-11379]

I feel like the mercy healing changes affected me way more than the ga ones i feel like lost my power. The ga change didnt affect me to much i notice since i noticed my self using normal ga wihout slingshot or super jumps so overall it was a buff to MY gameplay idk if to mercy in general