its not even a nerf i dont get overwatch players
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i tried mercy and still doing the same thing like allways play behind your dps holding right click, i got a mediocre dps but we still rolling because dmg boost its a huge advantage
Mercy still op
jsut wanted to say to both of you seperately,
as for GreyFalcon: us as a community have consistently come up with ideas to replace rez or damage boost, to nerf anything about her besides her movement. even i and this other forum user suggested a new ability whereas itâs a single target burst heal that grants 50 instantly healed health, has a cast time, low cooldown, and reduces the allieâs cooldowns by 20%. even i back in OW1 suggested a AoE burst heal on a 15 second cooldown, and changed valkyrie to be more powerful and connected with rez.
many of us have suggested changes, changes that are either healthy, broken, weak, etc, to the community and developers and we get shut down by everyone because of the fact we main Mercy and people think that we constantly want her to be broken and easily abused, and how weâre all crybabies. itâs a harsh stereotype thatâs only true for a select couple of players but that goes for all heroes too.
as for Booma: i see where youâre coming from in a lot of your posts, and i agree that her current movement (at a flat 1.5s like in S1) is really busted. itâs mainly only fun because of how busted it is. the Triage healing mini rework was completely overpowered, especially with the fact that she has infinite heals, and 67.5 constant hps can make a player quite literally invincible in some instances.
what i do feel like would be overall healthy for her as a character, is to revert her GA movement back to how it was before OW2 released. how you had to have skill with her techs, you couldnât constantly abuse angles, and you had to actually think about it more to see whether or not you should place yourself in X spot. sheâs so boring right now and clunky because they donât know what to do with GA to make it fun to use and not crap to go againstâŠwhen the reality is is just to admit your wrong and revert her movement back to OW1.
as for the both of you: i see where you both come from, how frustrating it is to see complaints and to supposedly âonly suggest balance changes for her then get shut downâ because being shut down is exactly how us as a community feels. but sometimes some balance suggestions are just flat out bad. but eitherway itâs not nice to call an entire community not creative at all, when all of our creative ideas are just being thrown out the window. we get ignored because of the fact we main mercy. personally what i want is to return her GA movement, scrap lifeleech and return her regen passive but activating at 1 second instead of 1.5, and then give her her old valkyrie regen HPs back (22.5 instead of 15). then we can balance her starting from there on out.
many of us mercy players donât want her to be broken bc itâs going to be like mercy 2.0 again. sheâs gonna be overpowered and broken to the point she wonât be fun anymore bc of how easy it would be to get value out of her, many mercy mains voiced their concern with Mercy 2.0 because they knew it would terrorize the game, and no one listened bc all they cared about was getting rid of hide and rez because of seagull. we told you all, we got shut down, you got mercy 2.0. YOU as a community wanted this, and you finally got it, now you all complain about her playstyle acting like those nerfs she got werenât the sole reason why sheâs encouraged to pocket now.
everytime we try to say something everyone shuts us down because of âbrain dead ez no aim no brain mercy mainâ and it feels god awful to be labeled as that. it doesnât feel great being called not creative, brain dead, aimless, crybabies, whiney, etc all because the devs wonât listen to us and nerf the stuff thatâs actually the problem. they nerf the wrong thing in her kit and it enforced the pocket playstyle even harder which is not the goal.
instead of nerfing GA, nerf damage boost to 20% which is the real reason on why players hate her, and change rez somehow. no damage boost and resurrect arenât scapegoats, their the actual reason on why sheâs so supposedly âbrokenâ which, her being broken isnât even close to true. personally, i would give everything to have a more balanced mass rez with valkyrie on E if it means i can have value on my ult again and i donât have to pocket every game.
i just wanted to let the both of you know my standpoint on this
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I actually think sheâs in a good place right now.
Extended CD if you use the jump is fair, but if youâre just darting about it makes it easier to escape. Before the revert it was clunky as heck. She feels fun to play again. (Iâm only gold but hey)
She felt so disjointed in season 3 because youâd want to fly away but stuck on a 3 second CD and you may as well have just bent over. (Again this is lower ranks)
This is such a stupid angle to take. How often does Tracer die? Good Tracers might actually not die the whole game because thatâs part of what skilled players prioritize. Every single person asked about how to get better performance out of Mercy will tell you to STAY ALIVE so you can continue providing value. OF COURSE sheâs going to die less, thatâs a cornerstone of how you play the hero. I donât know what their target âdeaths per matchâ stat is, but I bet itâs a higher number than Tracerâs. I miss the absurd healing with the critical buff, but Iâm glad it pushes the philosophy of counterplay against Mercy towards âkill her teammates out from under her until she has no one to fly toâ instead of shooting the moth and the console players cant do it so she has to be nerfed over and over.
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So, just even more cautious gameplay and boosting snipers far away from combat, got it.
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Itâs not that bad , did t even feel like she was nerfed lol
I agree completely. Itâs certainly not my desire for Mercy. Survivability is her game for me.
It just looks to me that the Devs seem to be set on slowing her down somehow, to allow people to catch her out. Look how resistant they are to roll back their GA changes, where itâs shorter now than season 3, but only in a way that Mercy rarely uses the ability. Iâm not sure the last time I ever âjustâ hit GA and left it at that.
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Kinda why a lot of Mercy players are so displeased with Skiesti cause she was the most vocal about the omnidirectional movement to be kept in.
Heck Aspen called it in season 1 that GA will be nerfed cause it was so strong-even though Mercy was a bottom tier pick in season 1.
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did they listen to you?
Maybe
[OW2] Mercy, simplified SuperJump+Slingshot
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sorry if this comes off mean falcon but the devs quite literally NEVER look at these forums, 99% chance is that they never even saw your posts
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Arguing also gets a lot more attention than theory crafting around these parts. Good or bad, informative or not, a thread gets a lot more posts when it creates controversy which doesnât help in making a bridge of good communication.
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i mean hey 90% of these 174 replies are just arguments lol
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One of the things I already anticipated when I tried making a thread was that a wall of text with inexperienced understand of Mercyâs state and being amicable was obviously not going to be popular.
Even when putting points in purposely for the sake of argument, it is not the same as being luckily blessed by a troll who will bump your thread with 20 posts. In your case or others, this isnât entirely the same as you, for example, have a positive reputation in the communities. Some others as well, compared to little olâ nameless me. I am thankful for some respectful individuals sharing their inputs with me at least.
I just wish the method to actually getting something across wasnât this long, arduous, and fruitless.
Didnât read anything but is this another awkward fix + unasked for changes that hinder her playing experience?
Idk, you guys should have realized how they feel about her after she got a non April fools +5 ammo buff.
I would have just stopped at launch ow2 mercy with super jump being made easier and thatâs it 
just reduce the amount of time GA is disabled and sheâs more than fine, like literally cut it in half and thatâs it, you canât spam it and you have 1s downtime
also get rid of crouch to superjump -.- Iâm one of the few who got used to directional input superjump, yes it makes you lose sight of the battle but thatâs the cost of it, if there was no instant jump button she wouldnât need nerfs
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Moira(and she can heal herself with orb)
her damage boost do almost nothing most of the time
GA make aim her heal near imposible(and the amount would need to be buffed)
exactly, everything in this comment, to be honest
if another support did 5k damage and mercy boosted 1k, thenâŠ
lest 3 secs, heal orb
I literally switch to her when Iâm having a hard time surviving as a mercy. but yes, she is much less problematic (irony)
mercy is my favorite because of the GA, it doesnât heal itself, it doesnât run away by itself, and its healing is probably the worst in the game, but at least Blizz gave us 5 more ammo,
seriously, if they keep the bullet speed change from April 1st, I would shoot a lot more, you can take the sympathetic heal, remove the DB and put a grenade effect from the ana or a desh that doesnât need allies but the distance is smaller, or do this with a zarya-style ray that sucks life from enemies, causing damage and healing you in a small percentage, I just donât want them to touch my GA (and the ray cure, because itâs impossible to aim no ga(okay⊠it would be cool if it was like pharaâs rockets, only they heal in the area, but thatâs kind of Bap)
It would be comical if it were not tragic
she canât change direction as easily as you imply, and sheâs extremely easy to hit if the person can aim.
zenyattaâs passive healing is greater than hers(and his ult let him be imortal), the others manage to heal themselves (kirico has suzu and literally can teleport through the wall to try to escape).
everyone else has an ability to heal (or more)
remembering that in OW1 it was 1.5s and an of tank to help you
but now they put this Ga with placebo time, which takes longer than the previous season, and took away the extra healing she gave
TT-TT
just take it off and give me my GA back
at high rank people can aim, so mercy shouldnât be a problem, probably thatâs why sheâs not at the top of the top supports. mercy takes pages and pages to appear,
âyou are hungry, but we are not going to give you food, try to ask for something differentâ
tank you
bap donât need to be in the middle of the enemy team to heal
I donât use super jump in widowâs sight, because itâs ridiculously easy to get hit and killed there, even if her aim isnât the best, 1.5 is much more than it seems
one shot macree combo and critical healing has broken, GA not
I use it on bronze
Iâm not a game dev
agree
not having the off tank, reduces the protection provided to supports, she canât go back to what she was in OW1, because 5 players changed the game core too much for that
she won the position of worst pick after the change in Briguita
sad but true
this one knows what heâs talking about
⊠same
same to this to. To be honest, this whole comment was perfect
I always knew that being main mercy was the final signature on the mortuary of my sanity and high esteem, but oh my
TO END
What i would like, first, the DB and the cure stay as they are. in the ult the cure increases to 65. (as it was in s3 it was unfair, but a smaller value and only during the ult I think it would be ok, if necessary, increase the time to ult)
removes the sympathetic cure, reduces the speed of the valkyrie a little for the dps to stop crying(this alone gona make her more killable)
a skill to improve healing for something around 3 to 6 seconds (like Anaâs grenade or bapâs area of healing, or moiraâs healing aorb, etc)
increasing the pistolâs ammo travel speed would make mercy more offensive (although in my elo I still manage to kill unsuspecting snipers and more)
thereâs a lot of mercy that doesnât take a weapon, but thatâs in low elo, like bronze and silver
donât touch my GA
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Is there only 1 way to get to the food?
you ignore all the options I gave, and you used the same gif, after passing multiple answers saying the same thing, I would say that this puppy suits you a lot