Symmetra is dead, lowest pickrate yet

[Byzantine-11425]

Bad or not (well, she is bad), she is definitely less fun to play.

Once upon a time, Blizzard weighted balance vs. fun equally. Now, they don’t care how enjoyable a hero is, or how far away a hero gets from their original design and identity.

As long as the numbers they see are fine, then its good enough for them (not that the numbers are fine anyway).

[TommySalami-11559]

They balanced the fun out of the game

[toop-2159]

I know it’s bad, but I’d rather NOT see her in games tbh.

[SandyK1LL-2429]

@Sasuke-14443

Maybe learn how to play the hero

lol

[Zephrin-11143]

@silience-11552

Symmetra’s not bad, people just know how to handle her and she’s somewhat situational

please read the following:

@Zephrin-11143

the only reason why sym currently is so niche and team dependent is because she simply lacks fundamental tools for her to function. legit her situation is:

@Zephrin-11143

• no decently available tool for her to get herself in and out of her shorter effective range often enough

• neither the sustain in her effective range to sustain her for sustain damage NOR burst for how little time she has in her effective range to get something done.

tp was her tool for the first point but blizz trashed it by spiking up its down time immensely for no good reason via infinite tp nerf.

and tp was legit sym’s tool to be more bursty too because it allowed sym to precharge orbs or pre-place turrets before sending them through so that her engagement wouldn’t include setup time.

pretty much the only reason sym is so dependent on double shield team pockets now (i.e. why she’s so niche and team dependent) is literally because of tp being via the infinite tp nerf

having a specialty is 1 thing, being without fundamental tools to function is another. sym is the latter.

[kongajinken-1805]

Genji is infinitely better at securing kills and has superior mobility.

[Zephrin-11143]

@Hotaru251-1596

Jeff stated a while ago (months?years?) that the concept of switching heroes was made alogn side that all heroes arent always useful.

they wanted plaeyrs to swap for the situation…which ppl dont like doing.

tl;dr of it was he said that some heroes arent meant to be usable all the time.

hi, here are more recent statements:

@Zephrin-11143

They’ve repeatedly said the opposite i.e. that they’ve moved into not having very niche heroes.

@GeoffGoodman

The goal of these changes is to move Symmetra to her new damage role and make her more flexible across more areas of the game. This means that not only should she be more viable in more team compositions and maps , but she should also be stronger on offense and defense.

@JeffreyKaplan

Naively, I didn’t expect “maining” and “one-tricking” to be so dominant.

We imagined a world where players would be ok with Torbjorn on defense but not playing him on attack. The maining/one-trick mindset led to us having to rework those characters to fit with how the game eventually evolved to be played. I guess what I am saying is we hoped to be able to create more highly situational characters with the thought that players would switch in situations where those characters weren’t as viable.

We like the direction things evolved and in hindsight, it seems obvious that they would evolve that way. It’s not that one direction is good or bad… they’re just different directions and we adapted to what the playerbase was doing, rather than fighting against their instincts.

[Hotaru251-1596]

@Zephrin-11143

hi, here are more recent statements:

ifu recall their buff to sym video jeff stated he still expected her to be niche.

you can make a hero more flexible but doesnt mean it will ever be equal to the others.

sym is never going to be not niche.

[Reign-11778]

Went from Hog No shield meta to Dive meta and she is struggling

[Zephrin-11143]

@Hotaru251-1596

ifu recall their buff to sym video jeff stated he still expected her to be niche.

you can make a hero more flexible but doesnt mean it will ever be equal to the others.

sym is never going to be not niche.

except:

@Zephrin-11143

having a specialty is 1 thing, being without fundamental tools to function is another. sym is the latter

for more details, look in the post I quoted this from above.

and very clearly, devs have made many statements in vids, in the forum, patch notes and in the reddit ama saying that they don’t want sym to be this narrowly niche.

[SquealnSquaw-1228]

I have at least 1500-2000+ hours on Symmetra and taken 5 accounts of sym only to t500. Symmetra is an absolute trashcan now. Blizzard devs did this. They are solely to blame for their own incompetence. It’s not hard to make Symmetra viable. Nor even functional all they have to do is change a few values like revert turret damage nerf, reduce recast to 8 seconds, revert primary hitbox 50% nerf, increase primary base damage or remove 1 level or charge, have teleporter recast start at deployment, increase base splash damage of orbs reduce direct impact damage of orbs to the point orb splash damage actually does the half damage they always claimed right now it does maybe 15-30 % which is functionally useless in game. Also they could triple the ammo restoration on attacking barriers, it’s a useless latent effect. Reloading is always better and by the time it would matter when attacking a barrier Symmetra is dead anyways. So aside from giving something else all these value changes are things the devs could easily do in a matter of a few minutes and vastly fix many of Symmetras non functional kit.