Her last set of nerfs without compensation were the final nail in her coffin… Please stop kicking this dead horse and get this character in a healthy spot for once!!!
It’s been over 4 years! Why is this taking so long?
Mccree already got his compensation buffs from his nerfs of course, and that took just a week… Hitscans are favorered so much more and it clearly shows… Meanwhile Symmetra… Has been terrible for 4 years, and was good for 3 weeks at one point… And now she’s Bastion Tier again…
What if - and get this - Symmetra’s not bad, people just know how to handle her and she’s somewhat situational.
You know, like Junkrat; Reaper; Winston; Torbjorn; Pharah; Bastion; Zenyatta; Genji, pretty much half the roster.
All of the characters you mentioned get greater value on a whole lot more maps then Symmetra does… Also other heroes don’t rank to borderline useless on maps they are not great at.
Sym on the otherhand has Lijang and Hannamurra, and that’s it… Lunar colony and Paris aren’t even ranked maps anymore…
If she’s not on the very extremely limited map pool that suites her, she’s useless… She’s not even decent, she’s the only hero who just becomes straight up worthless…
So your saying we shouldn’t play have the dps roster?
No, I’m saying that if being situational makes them bad, Symm isn’t the only bad DPS.
Numbani, first point of King’s Row, Temple of Anubis, Volskaya Industries, Busan, Ilios, Nepal and Oasis are also all good for Symmetra, and that’s just naming a few.
I could say that Genji’s bad because he only dominates on a map like Eichenwalde with seemingly thousands of flank routes, but it’d still be wrong and based off opinion.
That’s interesting, because you compared her to Bastion in your opening post, which means that Bastion would also be worthless.
She may be in need of some adjustment and compensation for her state, but Symmetra should not dominate Overwatch as a whole like Roadhog is currently to be good.
She is really bad. I have 680 hours on her and there’s very little situations where I get value from her now. I just play Torb and Pharah instead.
Hmm.
Why would people play sym into dive?
I won’t try to refute that, because I understand where you’re coming from. Both the Hog meta and the return of Dive haven’t exactly been receptive to her.
At the end of the day, I’m not trying to tell any Symm players how to feel. Just trying to provide a different perspective.
Symmetra is dead
We know
The only map she’s good from those you listed is a single point of Nepal…
She’s simply not completely useless on the other maps you listed. But she’s still meh on them… And there’s no reason to pick her over other heroes…
To be fair, she’s at an all time low because she’s God awful against dive, which is becoming meta. Her nerfs 100% did not make that any better, but now she also has a meta that really sinks her deep into a hole.
When I saw Symm, Pharah and Junk get nerfed, I immediately said out loud, “Why…?” I get they were trying to tone down some of the power creep, but these 3 heroes were no where near a part of the power creep problem.
She definitely needs some love, but even that isn’t going to help her in this meta. It just hard counters her.
Just an fun fact, Sym and Genji actually do roughly the same DPS on average so that’s a thing
Not going to lie, sym needs to be changed and honestly it is not because I want to play her. She needs to be changed because she is the obvious answer to fixing issues with the double shield meta without making orisa and sigma individually play like crap.
She needs to have her right click changed to be able to go thru barriers and she also needs the projected shield back instead of teleport. She is also weak without double shield being meta.
These changes should make the game far more balanced.
That’s not it though. If you played her for even a few games youd get it. She doesn’t counter ANYTHING and is shut down by like half the roster. I don’t think she has a winning matchup against anyone tbh. Shes absolutely awful.
They won’t let her be viable and it’s obvious why. It’s clear that they are bias when it comes to hero balancing. Why do you think Ana & Reinhardt are always on top while Symmetra, Mei, Reaper, etc are never allowed to be viable.
Except Torbjorn nearly has 100% pick rate suddenly. I see him in nearly all of my matches and it seems like NOBODY knows how to god damn counter him but me.
Fixed that for ya.
RIP, skinny legend.
every single one of the heroes you just mentioned can carry their weight in matches. Every single one of the have been buffed in recent memory. Symmetra has been more than nerfed with 0 compensation buffs.
I mean, if you want to lump together every extremely unique character that struggles because they are niche and insist that they’re all in A+ condition because that’s your personal assessment of them, then you are free to do that. We are also free to judge your intelligence level based on that assessment, though, so take that for what you will.
If anyone wants to try and tell me that Symmetra is oh-so-good, I have a car you may be interested in buying…
basically some heroes shall always remain bottom tier in a role with max amount heroes who wouldve thought, and are we talking about general casual experience in quick play or ranked? coz if we are talking about ranked low ranked sym’s just throw tp in the general direction of point and int into whoever they can find first and die and the liability is on you to play a team oriented hero in a rank category where team play is basically non-existent even in high ranks sometimes team play is rare so thats why low pickrate