😡 Don't delete Symmetra, Make a New Hero instead #SaveSymmetra

[JangBahadur-1968]

@TheJN-2163

This must be such a tricky situation for Blizzard. “Fixing” a hero without losing their core identity. Especially when the original hero already got such a strong community.

I don’t play Symmetra but I know I would be a bit concerned if i played a game as Mage and suddenly the devs change everything about the class and said “You’re a warlock now”…

I would love to hear a Dev insight on this topic.

First they said in a Dev Update that Symmetra only needs minor buffs.

I was like “Phew we are in good hands”

Then we Geoff posted how the Turrets are changing.

I was like “Wow they are going to make Sym’s clunky Turret mechanics a lot better”

So at this point I thought they were doing well.

It’s when they announced all the other changes, I was like "This is just deleting Symmetra from the game.

@Geese-1675

Let’s remake the other heroes like Sym 3.0 will do to her!

Me first:

McCree

New gun: Now he has a laser pistol that makes 30 dmg/s while it is hold.

His secondary is an Ai assisted laser that marks the enemy while hold and then shoots a powered laser bullet shot when released.

His new E ability is a new version of his old Ultimate, where he slowly waits while he concentrates on someone, powering the shot at 60dmg/s. Whoever is nearest the target becomes his victim. When he presses the fire button, he releases the concentrated damage at 1 unique shot. The cooldown is 12 seconds.

His new Shift ability is the joke: McCree says jokes like “what is that?” or “look! the cavalry is coming!” and every opponent in his field of view and at a maximum of 10 meters away from him is forced to look backwards

New Ultimate - Flashbang: Now McCree holds an extreme version of his flashbang, where the enemy has a big flash on the screen that lasts for 1 second and gradually returns to normal in 0.5 seconds. This flash is seen wherever the enemy is on the map (except if dead).

HAHha!

Reinhardt

Gravity Hammer now called Sniper Hammer.
Hammer now extends to long range, up to 15 m away.

Firestrike now travels faster, explodes on impact and does not penetrate.

Deja vu anyone ?

Earthshatter is now an ability.
When cast it shakes the ground. Allies gains a 15% damage buff. Enemies gain a 15% damage nerf.

Charge is now the Ultimate called Shove.
With Shove, Rein extends his hammer across his chest horizontally and shoves everyone, knocking them back 10m.

@WeebTrash-11175

The only way that she could actually be viable GM was if she was insanely OP in lower ranks, and it’s likely she still wouldn’t be good at attack

All these statement are untrue.
The stats show Symmetra’s the same across all ranks.
The stats also show that Symmetra’s fine on attack.

@SirShaggy-11820

You’ll still be setting up turrets, lobbing orbs, using your TP, microwaving at close-range, and holding down chokes. The rework takes the best aspects of her kit and makes them have more skill-rewarding and flexible. I can’t wait.

Eh I can hold chokes and blow people up with a Junkrat.

It is how Symemtra does her thing, that’s what makes her unique and that is now being removed from the game.

@JangBahadur-1968

But the problem here is that the skills Sanjay has are fundamentally different from Symmetra’s skills. His skills serve very different purpose in the game.

Saying that Sanjay’s Teleporter is the same as Symmetra’s Teleporter is like saying Reaper’s Teleport is the same as Mercy’s Resurrect.

Saying that Sanjay’s Photon Wall is the same as Photon Barrier is like saying that Mei Wall is the same as Reinhardt Barrier.

Saying that Sanjay and Symmetra are the same hero is like saying McCree and Soldier are the same hero.

@NighthAwk-13514

I vote 100% in favor of deleting current symmetra.

You must be fun at parties.

@Prett-1169

Can you just wait until the rework actually comes out before judging it? Geez.

Based on the suggested rework, we already know they are removing her from the game. We would like to keep her in the game instead.

@gungay-11542

the people asking for a rework are not the same people who are against a rework.

And then there are people who want a rework but don’t like this direction that they are taking her because it totally changes the hero to the point where it is akin to deleting them.

@Prett-1169

Does that disprove my point that people should wait for the rework to come out before judging it? No, not really.

Why wait for a hero to be deleted before speaking up?

@gungay-11542

no lol im just saying that you were implying something that isn’t true.

Like more of the commenters here.

@January2035-2426

They could always just accept that she won’t be viable in GM, and just leave her for those who want to play her.

She is viable in GM.

@Zwei-11485

That’s kinda the point.

Her current kit is utter crap and there’s practically nothing you can do to make it viable without it being OP.

That’s a factually wrong statement.

@JangBahadur-1968

Sentry Turrets

Movement speed reduction during Turret deployment reduced to 0% (down from 25%).
Cast time of Turrets reduced to 0.7 seconds (down from 1.4 seconds).**
Turret Deployment range increased to 15m (up from 10m).
Turret Cooldown reduced to 8 seconds (down from 10 seconds)
Enemies hit by Sentry Turrets are revealed through walls to the rest of the Team.

Photon Barrier

The size of the Barrier is increased.
The barrier is made concave.
The Barrier spawns closer to the player.
The cooldown of the Barrier is reduced.

Ultimates

Pressing Z (status of Ultimate), reveals the location of the Ultimate to Teammates through Walls.
Ultimate health is increased to 500 (up from 400).

@anon92350617

You and the OP are really pushing it, don’t you think? Aren’t you all aware that Symmetra has been classified as the worst hero in the game for the past 2 years? There’s a reason she was the first hero to be reworked, and even it didn’t do anything for her. You simply can’t deny this.

Well actually Dva was the worst hero. /s
Saying someone is the worst hero does not make them so.
And there is a difference between worst hero and a hero that no one understands how to play.

@Haitham-21231

Oh wow ,only one mention of sanjay !

Maybe you’ll finally stop the comparasion in your next thread.

Why stop a fair comparison?

@anon64855457

blizzard already made the rework… symm will be fine.

Sanjay will be fun to play, I assure you that.

But Sanjay is not Symmetra.

@iPatrick-2869

I have no problem with making current heroes useful before adding new ones, cause Sym is currently everything but useful.

The stats do not agree with you.
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Symmetra can be buffed without changing her so much that she is a another hero entirely.

@KlFelipe-1623

If you knew Symmetra you would know that she can create anything, that she can be in any class (tank, dps, support, defensive) just by creating the appropriate tools.

Yes I know Symmetra very well. She should not be removed.

@Terranguard-11978

It’s really not.

[quote=“JangBahadur-1968, post:1, topic:83632”]
Sorry you don’t get to wish it away.

@anon64855457

0,74% pickrate in GM… yes, alot. xd

That is a lot for a hero no one understands how to play and sees as useless.

@HongKongNo1-3302

They already made Moira and Brigitte

And they should add Sanjay to the list.

@Mahaf-1611

The general issue with Sym (and melee/short range heroes in general) is this is an FPS. Plain and simple. The S stands for shooter.

So are you advocating that we remove Reinhardt, Brig, Winston, etc?

@Andough-1183

I just honestly despise Symmetra’s mechanics as they are atm. I hate playing her, and I don’t like playing against her. I hate her gun, I hate her turrets, I hate her playstyle…I’m not a fan of any of it. So I’m personally 100% okay with them getting rid of the current Symmetra, and redesigning her.

You may completely hate a hero but if there is a community of people who really like that hero, why should we delete that hero?

@anon64855457

her turrets will be more powerful… so that part stays

It’s the only part I want to stay, because her current Turrets are kind of clunky.

When I heard they were doing this change I was excited, it’s the other changes that chagne Symmetra entirely and remove her from the game.

@Sandity-1715

Symmetra- “Im not feeling so good…”

angry deletion noises

Implodes

@Redgrave-12641

What the hell even is this Sanjay BS and why are you treating it like it’s something official instead of something people made up?

“What the hell is reading and why are you expecting me to read?”
Ftfy

@Oliver-14799

This post is way overblown. Relax and try out the rework. You may love it!

I probably will. But it’s so far off from Symmetra’s core, that it deletes Symmetra form the game. That’s what makes me angry.

The Devs should add a new hero instead of removing a hero that a part of their community enjoys, albeit it’s a small part of the community

@Andough-1183

I never called for her to be deleted lol.

You said you would be OK if she was. When you really shouldn’t be.

I would not be for such reworks that change heroes so much that they essentially remove them.

If McCree was suddently made into a projectile hero. I would not come to the forums to say “I am ok with this change because I personally hate McCree”

I would instead say “McCree becoming projectile, remove sthe hero from the game. Blizzard should add a new hero, instead of removing McCree”

@BaconPiano-1515

She will never be meta if people are too scared of change

Not every hero will be meta. We just have to accept it and not be scared of those heroes.

@Twist-11709

I’d die laughing if this was ever an actual ability.

Have you seen the ultimate of Deckard Cain in Hots?

He says “Stay a while and listen” and everyone falls asleep lol.

@Prett-1169

People who are judging it have literally no experience with it. Just basing their opinions on damage values and ability descriptions.

Ability change descriptions are enough to know how the ability is going to change… if you can read that is.

@HotRamen-11929

if it were up to me, i would actually delete symm and mei.

That’s not the attitude we should have towards heroes we don’t enjoy playing against.
I don’t enjoy playing against Pharah but that doesn’t mean we should delete this hero.
If tomorrow a hero you enjoy playing was getting completely redesigned to the point where they were unrecognizable then I would not support that type of rework one bit.

@SasakiKojiro-1452

Blizz did none of them and decided here’s a giant wall. Not impressed.

And they changed everything about her to the point where it’s now a different hero.

Here’s some really crazy out of the box thinking… Why not just add that new hero as a new hero?

I bet no one’s thought of that.

@Raja-21253

I seriously despise any Sym players who aren’t happy about the rework. It’s a pure blessing for our community, and much like Hanzo, Sym won’t ever be considered as a troll pick.

I seriously despise any players who leave comments like that. They don’t read, they don’t make any effort to understand the situation and remain in ignorance to what their fellow players are saying.