Actually, I think it would make it feel even better, as long as it’s not as horrible as E Rez. Instant Cast Mass Rez would feel so much better, and more rewarding, as you could bring back the entire team if needed.
This is what happens when the humanities get removed from school curiculuums and the young’uns are all left with the Internet to build their sense of logic and reasoning around. These peeps are treating an above-mediocre character as unplayable (even though she’s now a niche healer like looks at notes all the other supports). And what’s the deal with that condescending “signature” that person keeps spamming over and over?
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It’s very non eSport type of ability… it screws with game flow too much so, it isn’t coming back, IMNSHO it comes down to what OWL impact it has, and it doesn’t work there well.
I never understood the appeal of mass REZ.
I avoided playing her until Valkyrie was here because her old ult was so situational. All of the other supports have ultimates that help prevent death when timed right or help engage but Mercy’s is just for after the fact which I never liked. Valk follows the trend now but needs some buffs.
The enjoyment is probably from that glory spotlight and the floods of thank you the Mercy gets on a big REZ but if it’s anything like that, it feels kind of icky to me. Like glory and appreciation fishing.
Idk, personally I prefer valk and hope they buff it.
~Truely Yours xoxo,
A Defender, And Backbone Of The Team.
Tank Mains Unite! 
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You are entitled to your opinion. As for me I will have to vouch for the contrary.
I think having Rez from being on a fixed cooldown to an earnable ability would mean a huge difference in both engagement and impact. The stakes are a lot higher when you need to load up an ult to use an ability, verses being coddled with it given to you every 30 seconds. The former requires more skill to pull off successfully, as you would need to work a bit more to be able to use it.
I think Mas rez with LoS, damage reduction, and a small cast time, would be an amazing way to play the hero, powerful with the potential to make her bring back an entire team, while still being balanced with counters to CC and Area denial ultimates.
But hey, I respect your opinion if you disagree. Just my 2 cents! 
~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls 
Explain how his/her signature is condescending?
It’s not that. It’s the ”Holy crap, I just pulled it off, Ressurected over half my team, and got us back in the fight! We can do this!”
It was like… Restoring hope. That even when your team is dead, there’s still that chance, and just pulling it off itself feels so good. The praise is nice, but… it rarely happened. Mostly it was only the insults that followed after a failed Rez…
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Almost as if… We Mercy players, were giving our Teammates mercy? 
~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
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They’re painting their opinions, constantly in their posts, as “true, fair, and fun” balance, but if you actually read their posts, they’re nothing but wanting a broken and unfun ultimate back that was removed. Also, they keep obfuscating or bending everyone’s words in every topic they post. I lost count of how many belligerent posts they made in this topic, or even outright lying, all in favor of what? A game mechanic in a freaking video-game?
My god, people, get it together and let it go. And, by the way, since we’re on this topic for the freaking BILLIONTH TIME, I’m beginning to see a huge correlation between being a Mercy Main and misusing Valkyrie as a ‘spectator mode’. Valkyrie has saved my bacon in competitive countless times more than mass rez ever did. Y’know why? Because y’all aren’t seeing the obvious thing that most of us have come around to about you Mercy Mains:
You’re awful with Mercy, and just want an easy ultimate back to make it easier for you because you hate change and hate learning to play. Now that Mercy isn’t OP anymore, suddenly she’s “unusable”, even though she’s still one of the most picked in ranked, just not solid #1.
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If you feel that strongly, I ask. Why did you feel the need to post in this Mercy thread then? It seems to be a waste of time on your part if you are so against Mass res, to jump into a thread where the topic is seen as a possibility. Especially so if the OP is someone you have strong opinions about? 
I don’t see the purpose. Care to elaborate? Should you not just be “letting it go” as well, in expressing your disdain for a mass res “for the billionth time?”
Oh and what you’ve said about me is completely untrue, my apologies. If all you’ve gotten from my posts is “wanting a broken and unfun ultimate back that was removed.” I must say, you don’t really know what I want. I would advise not spreading rumors about people though, that is certainly not very constructive.
Let’s keep it classy, there’s no need to be hostile with one another.
~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls 
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Eh, I’d much rather the ult help prevent the death then bring dead back. It’s not just Mercy players who are involved with what happens to her but the rest of the communities opinion on mass Rez which the devs will look at and consider too. I’ll stick with The Valk buff but whatever, ‘‘tis fine, different opinions. I’m Out.
~Truely Yours xoxo,
A Defender, And Backbone Of The Team.
Tank Mains Unite!
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Because it’s a subjective opinion. What they may see as balanced may not be the same for someone else.
I have no idea what you’re talking about and this doesn’t prove that her signature is condescending.
It’s spectator mode because it turns you pseudo immortal and is best used by staying as far as possible from the fight. Furthermore, the heals it provides are basically nonexistent and basically only provide minimal sustain.
Nice slippery slope argument… You’d think someone that has mained Mercy and has been in GM since season 3 would not be awful at Mercy…
And this is where I stop taking you seriously. Otherwise, you would not be lying. Valkyrie is easier to use than mass Res.
Proooof.
And here we are, after a year of learning and playing new Mercy and adapting to all the nerfs. After a year, we finally give up. We totally hate learning, amirite?
/s
You and a lot of other people do this a lot. You say this but leave out the most important part. I’ll finish it for you:
“Mercy isn’t OP anymore. She’s underpowered.”
Pickrate is decreasing as we speak and she has similar stats to Ana in low ranks.
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RevertMercy, you should stop writing like a broken record with the same 2, 3 sentences.
You are grasping for straws with the “they reverted her healing output and ult voiceline” so desperately it’s not even funny anymore.
Also you keep claiming mercy was balanced back then, when in reality she was seen as a troll pick. In what way reverting her, then nerfing rez with LoS and cast time will make her balanced?
You REFUSE to answer this questions, instead you just repeat the same thing over and over. And don’t say i’m attacking you as a person. I’m attacking your argument (or lack thereof).
Seriously, tell me in what way she’d be balanced with a revert and a nerfed mass rez.
Tell me, prove me contrary. Don’t just say “i disagree”, then repeat the same thing over and over.
PS: my two cents on the signature. It does feel condescending, like they are holding the utmost truth and every other opinion is wrong. It doesn’t inspire discussion, it inspires “i’m right, your wrong xoxo”. Doesn’t help that they constantly repeat the same thing without actually putting up an argument.
If she was true, fair and fun, they gotta tell me why.
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Most arguments I’ve seen haven’t been about balance. I’ve seen “I’d rather her be fun and garbage than balanced and boring” which, honestly, I completely agree with.
I don’t even main Mercy but she just drags games down when you play against her now. It’s tedious.
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They’ve actually reverted a lot more than just that. Her Ult used to activate at the end of the voice line in the beta, and they reverted that change very quickly. As well as Changes to Sombra, Ana, and Lucio. (Stealth Detection, Grenade, and Wallride.)
Personally, I feel like making her underpowered and then boosting her up to being balanced would be much better and healthier for the game than making her super op. For Example: Valkyrie. XP
Also, tons of people say that old Mass Rez was Overpowered, so adding the Nerfs to her will show them ”Oh yeah, she is underpowered, let’s go ahead and buff her.”
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well, yeah, i too would rather having a fun, but low tier character.
But the way people talk make it look like reverting is gonna make her balanced somehow and undo all the toxicity. Again “true fair and fun balance”.
I was talking about mercy specifically. And still, one thing are number reverts, one thing are KIT reverts. None has happened so far.
Mercy wasn’t just tweaked, she was reworked.
For mass rez, to me the problem wasn’t balance, but design itself. It just made mercy depend on it in terms of worth. In higher level mercy was worth something only if she had rez up otherwise any other healer was better. And since it was an ult and was made slower and slower to charge for balancing reasons, she became less and less playable.
Doesn’t help that she was against 150hps ana (nade used to double heals instead of just +50%) and 30m aura lucio, so it was hard to justify her picking.
But if we reverted her we’d jump in the same problem. She’d just be dependent on her ult. And that’s not something that can be fixed with numbers and tweaks, it’s a problem with the core design.
And the rework came because she was perceived as grossly underpowered and was an attempt to make her less ult dependant. Which worked a bit TOO well.
But now i’m not arguing about the rework, i’m arguing about why mass rez was bad outside of balance and fun
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What are these bad aspects of mass Res? I’m asking so I can perhaps persuade you otherwise.
You’ve made this post before. You seem to want to argue for the sake of arguing, from how you are addressing me and others, so rather then entertain you, this will be the last time I respond to you directly. I’ll give you the cliff notes version:
-Mercy was reverted multiple times before
-This proves that “A revert will never happen” is in fact a myth and fake news at this point.
-Valkyrie has been more unbalanced, broken, and harder to balance than Mass Rez. Partly due to rez being on E, and partly due to the need to nerf her constantly just to break even with the hero.
-A lot of people think she is fine, and a lot of people think she is not fine. Currently, a lot of people know that she is in a bad state and needs something to fix her current state.
-I believe the solution is a revert. Other people believe the solution is a rework. Others still, believe that solution is a few minor tweaks.
-No matter what you or I believe should be done, there isn’t a right or wrong. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and one is not more important to another.
Any other questions you have regarding Mass rez, and Mercy’s current state, I will suggest you look at the following threads, as there are people who can explain it to you in ways that I cannot:
Outside of that, I will no longer respond to you on the issue, as I’ve proven to you multiple times before, and as such, the attacking me with your projected feelings, the needing to be convinced after I have stated we’ll have to agree to disagree, etc. Is becoming redundant and non-constructive. If it helps you, I would suggest that you bookmark this post, or print this post and put it on a wall or save it somewhere where you can reference it later. Further, just in case you will need to be reminded of what I’ve said in the future, I will be linking you back here as well - In case you require more explanation.
I would rather not re-explain to you again things you already know. Instead, the only word of advice I would have for you at this point is to just do your research, look at past Mercy megathreads (which literally answer every question you would have), settle your differences with people who have different opinions than your own, and move on. I understand that you don’t want Mass res to return and I respect that, I think mass res should return. We will simply have to agree to disagree on it and leave it at that.
Also side note: for the record… Saying
And then following it with
Is an attack on me as a person. You are projecting you feelings on how you think I am, without actually knowing me. So of course, I will have to disregard your first statement and ask that we try and be civil within this thread. This is a thread about Mercy’s current state, not what other people’s signatures mean to them personally. Let’s keep it classy 
Hope this helps and I wish you well on your endeavors. Take care now! 
~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls 
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I think last Valkyrie nerf was too heavy. Why don’t they give her instant res, increased healing and 30 hp/s self regen for example. Remember that words in patch notes when rework?
“Valkyrie unleashes the full power of Mercy’s Valkyrie suit”
This is NOT the full power. This allows us to fly like a fat fly and slowly res. While ressing 1 teammate the remaining team will probably die. And YES this FULL POWER of suit allows us to… pew pew pew here I am battle Mercree harassing ur widow. That’s all.
Are u kidding me devs?
i said it does feel condescending to me, regardless of your intentions. I don’t know you, i can only make assumption based on how you write.
Also, you failed to actually read what i wrote and repeated the same things once more. Reverting numbers and voiceline isn’t the same as kit reverts. You delude yourself if you think it’s the same thing. This is a fact, not an opinion.
Thinking revert is good is an opinion. Saying she was reverted is not. And don’t pull dictionary definitions, i’m talking about kit reverts. At no point they backed down from Rez on E and Valk as an ult nor they ever gav the impression of wanting to do that.
I explained why i think revert would be bad for her but you didn’t even try to argue with me. You just started assuming i was here to stir up drama, while talking with a condescending tone.
And yes, all that “wish you luck with your endeavors” after telling me to print your post and pin it to the wall IS being condescending.
You are just answering with the same list no matter what other say. How is that “progressing” the conversation?
I want to progress. I want to hear why people think mass rez is good.
But i only hear the same thing i heard on the initial post and no effort to even try to understand where i come from.
That is condescending. You keep talking about “every opinion is equal”, but at the same time you just go and ignore any argument, as if they’re beneath you.
Now i don’t know if this is your intention, but this is how you are coming off for me.
If you insist on repeating the same things while acting like this, then i’ll know i fell on deaf ears and me talking was a waste of time.
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