I will miss you, quickplay without 2-2-2

You have no facts to support this statement.

Devs aren’t the best at the game. A lot of them are around Platinum or average rank.

They literally said that they’d have a mode in Arcade always there called “Quickplay Classic” for this sort of thing without role lock…

They never said it doesn’t work. Want to provide the quote?

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Yeah, I’ll TOTALLY miss so many games lost in the “Select Your Hero” phase of the game.

note where he states about the way the game is tuned, and the importance of the lone healer.

it doesn’t work, from the mouth of the devs themselves.

you’re done now

Someone saying “3 dps lol” as soon as 3 dps are picked on Eichenwalde defense, then the other 3 that haven’t picked pick DPS, then we full hold at first point when the other team tries to use tanks and healers. :joy:

it was the most intense part of the game, but tryhards always lost :smirk:

I WON’T. GOOD RIDDANCE. have fun in “QP CLASSIC”

Thanks for the quote. Note Jeff’s use of the words “it felt like…” These are all subjective views. Not hard statements that outright state 4-1-1 can’t work for anyone.

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They didn’t enjoy it because it does not work unless you have the time and resources to practice it like the pros do. The margin for error is enormous and without the kind of coordination you find on esports teams it’s just a bunch of people running around trying to take advantage of chaos, which is how 3+ DPS comps typically work anyway.

On average the experience of 3-4 dps teams is really only enjoyable for the DPS players.

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Devs views based on the data amongst other things, meaning it beats your opinion.

note the end statement also about not being able to win once the healer is dead.

That’s why you’re done

The quote makes no mention of data from the actual playerbase. This was simply an experiment they tried internally with their own dev team. It again simply states that they didn’t enjoy it. I also don’t enjoy GOATS but it’s still viable.

Yes, but guess what? They have access to the data, you don’t. Meaning if they state it doesn’t work, it’s not just personal opinion like yours.

GOATs is viable.
411 is not and never will be

Had they come out and said “based on the data we have, and analysed the team compositions used across thousands of games, we conclude that 4-1-1 is not viable and generally loses” I’d agree with you. They haven’t said that though.

given the importance of the solo healer

once the healer or tank died, it felt like you were forced to completely regroup with no chance of pulling back a win

know what that means?

it mean’s it’s a non-viable comp because, instead of teams getting a few kills to win, you need one single kill to collapse the comp. It lacks sustain, it lacks stability, it lacks damage due to no focus fire.

do try and read the quote properly

it’s not going away. The non-2-2-2 qp will be called QP Classic and will be moved to the arcade section.

Honestly imo, they should have keep 3 mode all in the same spot:

  • Competitive
  • QP Role Queue
  • QP Classic

There’s no point in moving QP to arcade mode, other than trying to hide the mode and manipulate the player into playing into 2-2-2.

They did the same thing with AI mode, and hide it under Training Mode.

And then the same people are either leaver earlier, because match it’s not an EZ WIN or simply being toxic for the same reason xd

“It felt like”

Again, no hard data. No proof. Just subjective views. The healer and tank are important. Yes, we get that. Which is why you protect them by killing the people that go after your healer. The best defence is a good offence.

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Again, they do have access to the data, so if they’ve ruled it out, it means they haven’t just gone with personal opinions. Unlike you, which you are failing to grasp.

411 doesn’t protect the tank or healer, they run off getting killed.

classic dive vs 411, dive the healer, your comp collapses because no sustain.

Not. A. Viable. Comp.

but you keep making yourself feel better by nitpicking because you think it makes your irrelevant opinion mean something