I gave open queue a chance

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From day 1 sats. While popularity of OQ ranked itself can change from day 1 (but most likely it changes down due to people who only complete placements), the popularity of other mods is likely to be more or less the same. We know from Jeff OQ ranked is less popular than Workshop and Mystery heroes (7 and 4 place). So yea, it is around there. 10th is obvious exaggeration cuz there was only 9 mods showed. On day 1 popularity varied from 5.9% to 14.2 outside of Korea. And as I said, it should be more popular at first days.

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USA is 1/23rd of the world population.
OQ being behind mystery heroes in the USA just doesn’t mean anything. You don’t even know the mod ranking.
Btw,Korea is the country where best players of the world are and they like OQ…

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Well if we talk about percentile of world’s population Korea has much smaller numbers than US. But yea, since most of best players are from there it can be one of reasons why blizz bringing OQ ranked back. Many esports dps players just can’t play the game outside of scrims and it hurts their performance. Also, there’s almost no dps streamers left and you can guess people like to watch Genji or Ashe gameplay more that Rein’s. So they kinda lost a bit of advertisement from streaming with RQ.

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Same.

Before 2-2-2 went live, I was one of the biggest naysayers here on the forum. And I still - conceptually - hate it.

But at the same time I sadly have to admit that it massively improved the game quality. To a degree I genuinely didn’t think was possible. It actually feels like a team game now, even if people just blunder about doing whatever. The harsh reduction in kill-speed from not having 4-5 DPS against 0 tanks and 1-2 healers also means that as a support main I actually get to, well, do things! And there’s no constant 3+ sniper crossfire so there’s a chance to move across an open space now, the levels actually feel very different as a result of this.

All around, massive improvement.

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Its simple dps mains are some of the most toxic and selfish folk just two of them are toxic enough when you got 5 of them imagine.

That said i enjoy qpc and openque a lot cause im a support main.People are more than happy to have me on team there.

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The dps mains are still on the team though, they are just… feeding on Hog or playing dps Moira.

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The phara and hitscan ability scales pretty equally…

Pharas below diamond will float in the air and just get pegged out of the sky by any decent hitscan or DVa

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OQ has also been very popular in Europe as well.

Sorry America but global game is global.

So happy to have woken up to some good news for a change.

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10.3% at first. 3rd played mode, 0.5% above QPC and half as much as regular QP. Better than in US (cuz it’s better than in US everywhere), worse than in China, and I think it’s close to total average. So it was the most popular mode outside of QP and ranked.

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Did you observe what I said they don’t do “nearly as frequently”?

Yeah, there are games where teammates get pissed at each other for not playing specific heroes but compare that to OQ where if you were getting steamrolled by goats (for example), some of them in the 21 games I played and hundreds of games I played before 222 happened, where you would get roasted into oblivion and deemed some sort of criminal by your entire team if you weren’t switching off DPS (because OQ is a DPS fiesta) to a goats character (or Sombra or Doomfist at the very least) when you were getting clobbered by a team that was running it.

Or compare that to the times you’re getting ridiculously unnecessary 4-1-1 comps and your teammates conclude you’re “throwing” at the CSS.

That was happening and not infrequently.

Yes, I’m aware of that but most people, including myself, consider it to be far more balanced and manageable than to deal with a fragile 3 DPS comp against a durable comp like goats that runs them all over.

I’d rather have 2 off tanks and/or 2 off healers rather than a team that refuses to get off squishy DPS and we end up so fragile that we can’t manage against things like Snipers or punishing combos like Hog hook along with leaving a tank or a support to be the lone-players on our team to manage an entire element that is key to winning teamfights (tanking/healing).

It’s still outclassed in popularity by 222 in places like Korea and it’s outclassed in popularity by modes like Mystery Heroes (of all things) here in the US.

I’d sure think I am speaking for a pretty large majority of people that share the same opinion if those statistics that Jeff pointed out are accurate.

No.

First off, you can play whatever the heck you want.

Second, I’m voicing these concerns because (a) it’s going to divide the community immensely if they decide to add two completely separate core modes and (b) the dev team will be forced to go against their promise of faster patches since now they have to worry about how they balance their heroes around not only millions upon millions of possible team comp combinations but also between two different modes.

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Why has it taken so long just to show us the 20 stomps? Are you lying or?

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No. I’m not going to post 20 whole replay codes that you aren’t even going to watch.

I’ve already done stuff like that for other issues that involved entire games and still no one is convinced even though the evidence is there.

And also, the replays are no longer there anyways since I already played more than 10 games from a different mode(s)

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It won’t split a community that’s already divided.

If you’re on US servers, the population is pretty unified on 2-2-2. I play on EU, so OQ has its own audience there already.

He said the focus on balance will be on 2-2-2.

The support OQ gets will be against extremes, same as balance is applied at lower ranks.

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Yeah and then once it stays as a permanent mode in the competitive card, it’s going to get worse.

So if you play OQ knowing that nothing in your mode will get balanced even when there could potentially be a very overcentralized aspect that needs a patch to control (ie, goats as of today), how is that fun?

Like for real… how is that fun?

It’s one thing if it was mystery heroes where the competitive element is not exactly there. It’s more of a mode to kick back and have fun on (and practice new heroes) but in a soon-to-be core competitive game mode, how is that possibly fair or fun?

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Not sure what rank you are playing at but I’ve had a great time with Open Queue.

Pharah and Junkrat can usually stop Goats play unless they are actually good and in my experience when I see Goats I just see free ults all game. The rank and file of this game can’t play Goats all that more effectively than any other comp.

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I think as long as there’s a degree of support we’re fine. They manage to support balance across all ranks for most heroes most of the time so I doubt things will get too out of hand. Though it’s not like we’re unused to bad metas getting out of hand for extended periods already. Heh.

You might want to be more worried about getting trapped in a 2-2-2 meta while you watch OQ destroy it.

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Then I’ll sit here and think it’s bait. Thanks for lying! You can’t say anything when you can’t provide us with proof. I’ll assume away!

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All of the pros, tons of high level players, and a quick history search on the forums says otherwise.

Nice irrelevant anecdote.

Guess what I do constantly in 222?

I play McCree, get killed, and when the enemy team is about to take the point, I swap to Doomfist and cheese my way to victory.

Point is I can say the same exact thing for 222.

“Because creativity helps you win games.”

That’s like saying “the person with the biggest drum set” is the best drummer.

Give me a break.

Lol thanks for proving my point.

??? What?..

Okay?..

No one ever said that to me either.

But what tons of people did say is “already insta licking 3 DPS? Alright. Fun.”

And

“We already going to throw with 4 DPS?”

And

“If we don’t goats it, we’re gonna lose”

All of which can’t happen in 222 because (a) you can’t insta lick 3 DPS, (b) both teams are equal in composition balance making toxicity towards hero/role selections far less frequent, ( c ) and goats is gone so no need to be put under pressure to mirror it to win.

Lol okay.

You posted a forum post on Tracer’s pulse Bomb possibly being bugged. Yet you provide zero information in terms of actual gameplay to prove that may be the case.

You also posted a forum topic about being called “trash” and you also don’t provide a picture or a video of the incident.

You make a post how you dropped from 4.3k to 3.7k and don’t provide any meaningful information that proves that.

You even made a post about how you won 2 and then lost 2 and didn’t even bother to post the end result of your SR gain for any of them let alone all 4 games

“YoU cAnT sAy AnYtHiNg WhEn YoU cAnT pRoViDe Us PrOoF”

Learn to better yourself as less of a hypocrite before you throw the BS and unfair excuse of “If I can’t see it, it doesn’t exist.” The fact that you even insult my intelligence like that makes me wish I was allowed to dump water on your computer and/or game console.

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Fair point, but I explained that the next time it would happen, I’d provide it with proof. Nice reading comprehension, bud.

Why should I? It’s obvious toxicity exists, sherlock. Why would anyone actually post it when name-shaming is against the rules and why would people even save it in the first place? Sounds a little like backtracking to me.

I don’t need to because i’m not crying for help. Meaningful information? Just look at my profile back then lol. It’s really not that difficult. Meaning information? Nice going, hypocrite.

Because it isn’t important. Even if people wanted to see my sr, just look at my profile. Nice argument.

By replying to this, you’re being a hypocrite yourself. Get lost. It’s baffling you would go into someone’s profile and bring out points that are very invalid. Hey man, if you can’t stay on the topic then don’t make posts. It’s obvious you’re taking this way too personal.

I bet I could find similar things from you, but I’m not going to because I’m not taking posts so personally.

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Actually I’m not because I’m not saying any of what I said as a means of trying to invalidate the posts I’m referencing. Those things probably did happen.

I’m just using your own logic against you.

No u

Actually they aren’t invalid because I have every right to call you out using your argumentation using the resources the forum gives me.

Says the guy who decides to go the “if I don’t see it, it didn’t happen” route instead of having a meaningful discussion regarding the topic.

Actually, I’m not.

Yeah and I 100% guarantee you will locate a few dozen threads I created that talk about a specific event that happened but I decided to not go through the convoluted hoops of posting clips that I guarantee most people aren’t even going to watch and just base their replies on what the text says anyways.

My purpose in scrolling through your own stuff isn’t to invalidate jack of what the content of them say but to show that your own logic is also your biggest enemy.