I don't understand the Mercy logic

[Carver-11965]

Good for you, glad you still enjoy her. I disagree.

[Echo11-21439]

Did you mean to reply to someone else?

[Carver-11965]

Possibly, I hit the reply button on my thing and it brought me to your comment so I assumed that you had replied to me. It could have been wrong though, no worries either way.

[Echo11-21439]

I meant this:

I don't understand the Mercy logic

Yeah I explained how what I said wasn’t about her healing, it was about the concept of how her healing is distributed [slow and steady vs. hard and fast] and they either still were trolling me or still didn’t get it. Like there’s a difference between a concept and what you’re literally talking about but I don’t know how to get through that with tone and the internet and all that. And TBH I’m just here pre-coffee dicking around so who knows maybe I don’t make all that much sense, but - Mercy’s h…

[Megadodo-11847]

That doesn’t work when they constantly keep changing the characters that I like. You can’t say “Just find a character you like!” when the game is constantly changing the characters.

Like - people deserve to have opinions on characters. If you like Mercy as-is, great for you. I liked Mercy AS SHE WAS when she had mas res. Who among us is ‘right’? Both, really - because ultimately it’s an opinion.

In my opinion the game is becoming hard trash, Mercy has been screwed over to the point where she’s fundamentally boring to play, and she’s been outclassed by Ana and Moira as a primary healer because she has no ability to introduce skill to her kit. That’s all I gotta say about that.

I can state it, and I do state it

The constant in this game is change.

The only reasonable responses to a change to a favored character is to adapt your play to the changed character, identify a new character one deems more suitable and play that instead, or find another game

It is quite clear that characters can and will change over time in this game. Refusing to accept that isn’t imo a reasonable reaction.

[PhoenixHulk-1292]

The only reasonable responses to a change to a favored character is to adapt your play to the changed character, identify a new character one deems more suitable and play that instead, or find another game

This isn’t an either/or.

You can both adapt to change with your favorite character AND want that character to receive better changes in the future.

[Corpro-1557]

Not going to lie, despite Mercy’s “low” healing output. I prefer her vastly over Moira. Her heals are consistent and reliable, and her survivability feels much higher in general. She also provides amazing utility in the form of damage boost and Rez.

I personally, love having a Mercy on my team.

[Felhelen-1952]

Every single thing out damages her heals even monkey

Factor in reload and monkey doesn’t out damage her.

[genGG-11775]

I like to play her and I main Genji/Ana. The super jump REALLY adds a lot to her gameplay and I’m glad I learned to do it. Launching myself out of a Mei ult or earthshatter feels so cool. I bound crouch to caps lock so I can just press shift/caps at the same time with her and perform the jump easily

[Megadodo-11847]

The only reasonable responses to a change to a favored character is to adapt your play to the changed character, identify a new character one deems more suitable and play that instead, or find another game

This isn’t an either/or.

You can both adapt to change with your favorite character AND want that character to receive better changes in the future.

In a game where change is constant, one should expect it

[PhoenixHulk-1292]

Sure, and that goes for a character to receive better changes as well.

As I said, there is no either/or.

[HintOfMalice-2431]

Yeah, I don’t like the fact that Mercy feels weak and braindead,

Weak, maybe, but there is a large number of people on the forum who believe Mercy requires you to be quadruple digit IQ to play her.

[AngelRoar-2857]

Statistically is Mercy fine.

• Her pickrate is healthy.
• Her winrate is good.
• And her average healing is on par with the other main healers.

Uhm, let’s see :
In higher ranks her pickrate is between 1 and 2% (spoiler Alert, it’s not good)
Her winrate is high just like Orisa, Reaper, or Torb so I guess that means they’re all fine ?
Her average healing is below both Moira and Ana but you are not talking about the fact that Mercy has no burst heal whatsoever meaning her constant heal should be higher to compensate.

Instead of saying why Mercy still has a lot of issues, I’ll just answer that:

Why should Blizzard change a hero who already is statistically balanced and being enjoyed by some players, just to make Mercy enjoyable for some other players? That’s selfish.

Why are they buffing Wrecking Ball? Higher pickrate/winrate
Why Changing McCree ? Higher Pickrate
Why Change Reaper?
Why Change Mei ?

We could go on.

Look at why Mercy is picked.
As an Off-heal to babysit. Nothing else.
Maybe because she isn’t really supposed to do that? Her kit isn’t designed to be an Off-Heal.

Even in Dive comps she isn’t a Main Heal anymore. She’s just an Off-Heal filling the spot of Main heal just like Zen does when you’re playing Zen/Lucio.

So no she’s not really good right now and even if it were Dive, her pickrate would be sooo much higher but that wouldn’t mean that she is fine. Sha has many core issues that makes her problematic and stats can’t show that.

[Dva-21640]

Blizzard’s stated reasons for the removal of mass rez do not match the reasons stated above

I know you love facts so I’ll give you it straight from the horses mouth

It was frustrating to play against

See: September 19th Patch notes on the old forums

And yes, the above is an opinion. Something is not objectively frustrating.

[mikabe-2604]

Okay, know what. I’m tired of counter-arguing. Tell me EXACTLY how Mercy is as good as any healer’s.
Rez: How many times a game can you actually complete it? Sure, behind walls its easy, but if your teammates die there frequently it means you’re losing the game or your healing isn’t helping. And on the battlefield, you can get booped, head shot, or just cassually killed. You are completely vulnerable to any damage unless you have a shield tank, in which case, could easily die of flankers during the process.
Healing: Sure, I get gold healing, you get gold healing, but it doesn’t mean it’s enough. There’s no control, no way to keep your team alive in a fight but to hope they won’t take damage while you’re healing them one at a time 50 hps.
Valkarie: In what way is it not spectator mode? You look above/next to your team as you hold right click and left click. You can guardian angel and rez once in a while but then you risk losing your ultimate as it is the only way to heal 60 hps again. There isn’t too much interaction. Maybe you used it to support your Gengi while he’s ulting. Maybe to heal two different teammates that are far away from each other. Either way it doesn’t have much impact. Want more arguement on my side? Compare it to sound barrier or Transcendence. Those are strong ultimates on the support side. Now look at Mercy’s.
Guardian angel: The thing I love Mercy for. Her flight and mobility. Look, we’re arguing but we’re really on the same side. We both want Mercy to be her best and balanced Mercy. You believe she’s good now, I believe she needs changes. But I think the only way to get anywhere with this argument is by telling you where I come from: I just want to feel the way you arguably feel with Mercy. I just want her to be fun for all.

[mikabe-2604]

Our experience differs

Wait, are you saying I don’t get gold healing? You think I’m plainly basing this off my experience? No!! Sure, some of it is based on my gameplay, but that’s uneducated. Know those videos on youtube, the Overwatch “gods”? I watched different “Mercy gods” play and, they may have got gold healing, but their teams died frequently. Unlike with other supports.

[Silawatsi-1430]

@Devil-26652

Fun is subjective. They may not like the current Mercy, but I know some other players do. To whose fun should they balance Mercy?

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/53134784/why-not-both.jpg

The only difference between the standards of “fun” for current Mercy players vs unhappy old players is that the old players want more options on how to play Mercy in addition to what she already has.

It’s like asking a divided crowd on what condiments should be stocked in the fridge: one party like their hot dog plain, while the other likes mustard and relish on their hot dog.

It would cost the ‘plain hot dog lover’ nothing to stock the fridge with condiments that they never plan on using, and are under no obligation to use. The condiment lover on the other hand, would be satisfied.

[Megadodo-11847]

@Silawatsi-1430

@Devil-26652

Fun is subjective. They may not like the current Mercy, but I know some other players do. To whose fun should they balance Mercy?

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/53134784/why-not-both.jpg

The only difference between the standards of “fun” for current Mercy players vs unhappy old players is that the old players want more options on how to play Mercy in addition to what she already has.

It’s like asking a divided crowd on what condiments should be stocked in the fridge: one party like their hot dog plain, while the other likes mustard and relish on their hot dog.

It would cost the ‘plain hot dog lover’ nothing to stock the fridge with condiments that they never plan on using, and are under no obligation to use. The condiment lover on the other hand, would be satisfied.

So they want options, like for example a way to use the rez power without a slowdown on a living target for some other beneficial effect?

[kongajinken-1805]

Options like Mercy’s main beam does 80 and smaller beams do 40 during valk, something literally anything at this point.

[Megadodo-11847]

Options like Mercy’s main beam does 80 and smaller beams do 40 during valk, something literally anything at this point.

That sounds familiar