I DO want 2-2-2

Plz stop telling us we dont want 222 because we will “get 2 off tanks”, “get 2 off healers”, “get 2 off meta dps” etc.

THIS HAPPENS NOW lol. 2-2-2 or not, this happens and is really not a BIG deal compared to the DPS problem. Why are u choosing to ignore the positives???

  • 2 guaranteed supports = More incentive to tank, enables the DPS more
  • 2 guaranteed tanks = makes space for team, ult charge/peels for healers, higher chance of team-oriented gameplay
  • Role Que makes for MUCH more balanced teams/games due to role based SR. (Less coinflip games)
  • 222 lock makes balancing alot easier for devs and enables tanks and supports to be buffed without worry of another Goats comp forming.
  • it makes hero design easier. Dont have to worry about stacking up shield tanks or multiple oppressive heroes in 1 category.
    Etc.

Many of us just want to play more enjoyable COMPETITIVE overwatch games with more synergy, balance and teamwork but instead we are dealing with 4-5, even SIX dps comps and also u get 1 trick mercys soft throwing with widow (1 example of the need for role based SR).
Healing and tanking is not the chore is made out to be, the fun on those 2 roles are massively dependant on the overall composition which is usually bad in the games current state. If u don’t like the 2 roles, que as DPS and wait. If u dont wanna wait, play quickplay. The game NEEDS the addition of healers and tanks to be even slightly competitive.

  • put 2 2 2 in arcade to test
  • make a 6v6 dps only mode for the people who dont want to play as a team
  • make competitive actually be competitive instead of a constant coin flip

Lil edit:

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No I don’t.

I get that 4-5 DPS comps are annoying but I like the flexibility of being able to pick up some slack from healers, or dropping the off-tank for more raw damage. Sometimes it is best to round robin through.

2-2-2 does nothing for a flex player like me, it only serves OTPs and that’s just not the game I bought.

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“DPS problem” is not as bad as, say, 5 support composition. It’s especially humiliating when you lose to one -_-

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I honestly been playing ball in a 3 dps comp and its fun.

Ive done orisa in a e dps comp and its fun too

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Im a flex player and i would happily lose the ability to switch between roles to increase the overall stability. switching is extremely hit or miss, sometimes it can turn a game in your favour. Other times it can lose u a game (eg. Healer switches to dps but no1 changes to support to cover)

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say we is not right. you are part of a group. nobody knows how much want this and how much dont want it.

if you dont do a poll or something, you dont know what we want.
you want it. and some others.

but me and some others dont want it. It is a pat situation…

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The only time ive seen flex not work is when we were gonna lose regardless because the other team is overall better. Ive had more games of the healer switching to dps gave us a victory than defeat.

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You might, I’d hate it. Give me 10 more tanks and 10 more support to pick from and maybe we can think about it, but the roles are too limited by number of heroes to really give you much of any flexibility; especially Tanking.

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If you like becoming obsolete you were never a true flex player to start.

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Flex doesn’t work extremely often. People dropping tanks, people dropping supports can be fatal to the game. And that’s without even going into the brainless DPS switching, where people basically discard their ult charge all the time, while thinking they’ll win just because they switched to the supposed “counter” to the enemy team. Too bad they have no idea how to play that “counter”, and feed even harder than before.

Like, the most basic example, how people take Bastion just because it defence? Despite the fact they have absolutely no idea how to play him remotely effectively, and throw the game for entire team? THAT kind of switching.

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bc youre ignoring the negatives.

barely any more synergy will happen

it WONT be more balanced

and it DEFINITELY wont create more teamwork.

wrong. every hero and role is dependent on each other.
playing pharah? well lucio wont be as good.
playing mercy? well dive heroes wont be as good.
playing orisa? well RH is better with her.
every hero and role needs every other role and hero to be a good comp. one does not solely influence the other

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Flex players consistently add hero’s to their roster. Meaning they tend to know how a hero works when choosing them.

Don’t confuse the desperation of non-flex players with that of actual flex.

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my love for competitive gameplay and dislike for awful/unbalanced team compositions is a worthy sacrifice for switching between roles during a game which btw isnt what defines a flex player

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More raw damage zarya, D Va, and Roadhog are output dps damage output.

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not for me. when I switch roles esp when with a friend or at least with someone who has a mic we end up destroying and winning the rest of the game

thats switching wrong tho. most of the time if you dont actually SWAP roles then it doesnt matter. except if you swap to a DPS with healing or a healer as a dps then it can work since you can take care of yourself. all depends on the comp and who youre fighting/having trouble with.

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And this outs you as a fraud…

Flex players are very much defined by their ability to flex into multiple roles.

You are not a flex.

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PREACH!!! I cant love this post enough. we need more healers and tanks b4 we should even attempt this lock

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and doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is insanity and WAY worse of a tactic

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???how much synergy is in 5 dps comps? The right choice of tanks and supports is literally the biggest part of SYNERGY on this game.

YES IT WILL :sob:

Nice contradiction 10/10. Imagine actually thinking that the enjoyment of tanking isnt partially determined by the amount of healing available…

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Unfortunately, the creativity side is over-ruled by the need for good games. I recommend picking up ball :wink: