The selection process doesn’t even matter in apex. Is what i was saying.
Lets say I LOVE playing Wraith. Someone else picks her. I can choose any of the other heroes and im not losing much at all. I can pick Lifeline or Pathfinder and play those heroes 95% the same way I play wraith.
I pick up my favorite guns and I shoot them the same way.
Don’t hurt yourself. Just take a nap.
You got proven wrong, and thats the your witty comeback you chose to use. Yikes.
We’re not talking about a 2-3 minute queue.
We’re talking about a half an hour to play a DPS hero. To play any DPS hero.
Sure, some people will flex, however you cannot play a game while you queue. So people aren’t going to flex. Many people will simply quit altogether.
Overwatch, in its current state, cannot work with a role queue. The game will die.
I’ve explained this in another thread ad nauseum you proved nothing other than you inability to understand simple things.
A role queue is a dumb idea. It has an adverse effect in wait times.
Random selection, with role locking to whatever (2-2-2, 1-2-3,…), is much smarter.
A better role queue idea to minimize queue times.
You can pick all 3 roles, with one role having a priority tick, and each game you don’t get your prioritized role, you will get a priority point, and in the queue you will have 1 priority above all others queuing for the DPS role.
You can also refuse to flex, and just tick dps, and get a pure DPS queue time, which will be longer than the tank/heal queues.
Queue times won’t matter under that, it’s the fairest queue model for role queue.
Exactly this.
“Give DPS role or I throw”
How do you handle that without tanking the playerbase?
People like playing damage dealers. Part of it is because there are 2-3 times as many damage dealers as there are either supports or tanks. Part of it is because people like to feel as though the are carrying, and DPS give you that feeling more than any other role.
Role lock means that people like me with good computers on good connections will always get to play whatever they want. People without won’t ever get to play what they want, and they will stop playing.
How do you prevent them from leaving for other games because they don’t get to have fun?
Same way as now, report for Gameplay Sobotage.
Eventually players who can’t handle selecting randomly, which is fair to all, would get reported out or banned for leaving.
So when its my time to chose, and I cant pick the heroes im good at because they are either picked already or the role they belong in is locked out, I have to pick a hero im bad and and basically throwing because i suck at the hero I was forced to pick?
Thus l lose SR when we most likely lose.
Am I missing something?
This is how people flex now.
Get better at other heroes.
You wouldn’t always pick last, and you could ask someone for a role, but they are not obligated to leave it for you.
Just get good at all 30 heroes 4Head
“Just forcefully play the game the way i want you to play it, in order for my enjoyment to be better” “Screw your enjoyment though”
Its funny because that is the total opposite of how Blizzard themselves have structured the OWL. In the OWL there are players that are hired and only play specific roles. 1 tricks as well.
They already use a system that we want but they wont give to us.
I honestly don’t see the issue with dps having to wait that long. You want to play dps that badly? Well then go ahead and wait. Without role que those dps players just get a game and pick dps anyway and then force others to play tanks and healers for them.
And if those dps players are okay with flexing then they can que as tank or healer and get faster ques.
Honestly it seems to me like those people who don’t want to wait that long are the reason that role que should exist.
I don’t see a problem whatsoever.
I just love the idea of forcing people to flex. So sick of instalock DPS.
“Lets just force people to do what they dont want and hate”
lulz
Nice system you want there ace.
Nice way to lose players.
The official statement on it is, with the player base we have. There is such a shortage on tanks and healers. That the role que would be 30 minutes on RQ.
Makes sense. Thank you Jeff
I want those people to quit. They ruin my games.
I’m not waiting 30 minutes to play a game, every time I want to play. In that amount of time I’d have already gotten in 2-3 games normally.
apex gets it right because you can win without using any abilities (I know, because I have) it’s characters aren’t HUGELY impactful, while winning an overwatch game without using abilities isn’t even possible in bronze. The characters in Apex don’t have abilities that counter each other much (with 1 or 2 exceptions) While overwatch is all about counters. See what I am getting at?
punish those who are not flexible and teamplayers at all with longer queues or better said: reward those who chose to play heal and tank