No, I’m literally saying that they once removed 2 control points in those respective maps and replaced it with 3 control points as a way of reworking those maps. But hey, I’m just making an educated guess. I just don’t see a pro making dumb statements like that unless it was in reference to something worthwhile.
Talk about strawman. Who here really mentioned mass Res besides you? It’s not coming back and most accept that. The majority of debates about mass Res nowadays just revolve around defending the belief that it was better than the rework.
When any possibility of your main being buffed is squandered by the devs, I thinks it’s fair to say you’ve got a right to be mad
The thing is Mercy can’t heal through stupid, and people have to get used to that and know how to get more value out of her weak healing.
When did they do this?
I see pro players saying all sort of dumb, ignorant and immature thing all the time, probably because most of them are young. Skill does not equal wisdom.
NeptuNo is a support main and can play any of the support roles, notably Lucio and Bap as well and has been playing them consistently in OWL for the past 2 years, much more than he has Mercy
Thank you ;-;
Remove until they rework it. It’s not a hard concept buddy, they’re going it to Paris and Horizon as we speak.
True I should just mute you and continue about my day, excellent idea!
Yes because you’re the one saying stuff like:
But yeah…I’m the mad one…uh huh…
thanks for reminding me about the new mute/block feature on the forums tho
I wouldn’t put the blame squarely on them alone. I don’t know if you were here for her reworks but the forums kinda exploded with crazyness every time they tried something new with her. Now that they’ve got her somewhere “meh” I think they’re tired of the blowback. The Mercy fanbase is a volatile thing.
When did they do this?
Jeff said it on the forums. I think it was pretty recent to. If you insist, I could find it for you.
I see pro players saying all sort of dumb, ignorant and immature thing all the time, probably because most of them are young. Skill does not equal wisdom.
If we’re talking about balance, skill is arguably more important than “wisdom”. Especially if we’re discussing Esport’s pros.
When any possibility of your main being buffed is squandered by the devs, I thinks it’s fair to say you’ve got a right to be mad
I’m not advocating buffs for my mains because they don’t need one. Mercy doesn’t need a buff because she is performing well, which is something that some Mercy players just seem unable to accept. Like I said, if Mercy happens to get a buff it will be a very minor one like 5hps, any more than that would break her again.
Jeff said it on the forums. I think it was pretty recent to. If you insist, I could find it for you.
They said they might try it, but they haven’t actually done it. You said they had done it already.
If we’re talking about balance, skill is arguably more important than “wisdom”
No, no it isn’t and the fact that you say that is concerning.
They said they might try it, but they haven’t actually done it. You said they had done it already.
I ended up messing up the tenses for that reply.
He could be referencing the fact that Jeff had talked about turning 2CP into 3CP maps as a way to fix the mode. Effectively, Jeff has proposed removing 2CP in the past as a way of reworking those maps.
This is my correct answer. Sorry for the mistake.
No, no it isn’t and the fact that you say that is concerning.
Sure, wisdom is good but if you’re already knowledgable and overall make good decisions in matches already, there’s no real need for you to be a die-hard player of 5 years or something. The amount of knowledge and skill that pros have make them good players to ask about balance.
Edit:
Ryan found it for me.
yes. we have actually tried it.
So they did attempt it. Guess I should change my reply then.
The developers have tried to remove 2CP and replace it with 3CP.
NeptuNo is a support main and can play any of the support roles, notably Lucio and Bap as well and has been playing them consistently in OWL for the past 2 years, much more than he has Mercy
Sees signature hero is Mercy, yeah it checks up.
Remove until they rework it. It’s not a hard concept buddy, they’re going it to Paris and Horizon as we speak.
He never said remove until rework, he said remove and provided no feedback on it whatsoever.
True I should just mute you and continue about my day, excellent idea!
You are welcome to do that anytime.
But yeah…I’m the mad one…uh huh…
thanks for reminding me about the new mute/block feature on the forums tho
None of those things imply anger. Though I’m not surprised you can’t tell the difference.
yes. we have actually tried it. the scope of work to do it properly is the equivalent of rebuilding all of the maps. it’s not a “minor redo” or rework level of effort. it’s almost like building a new map from scratch.
The person I was replying to said that they had implemented it in game which is not true.
She is not going to get 10hps we already went through that and it didn’t work,
no it did. They only nerfed it because they wanted other supports like Ana to shine - but now with Ana’s 100% pick rate I think maybe they’ve tipped the balance way too far by nerfing mercy into the ground and while at the same time buffing Ana
Also mercy had 60hps since ana’s launch as a character and for the whole of overwatch until 2018. Even then they only reverted it because of the fact they wanted other main healers to shine after the toxicity and notoriety of the moth meta
THIS SUGGESTS that 60hps DID WORK and was in fact the MAGIC NUMBER
you’re just too ignorant to see it
Let’s not confused apathy for disdain.
Blizz does not care for Mercy, that is very different than hatred.
The person I was replying to said that they had implemented it in game which is not true.
Eh, no I didn’t? I said they attempted it.
No, I’m literally saying that they once removed 2 control points in those respective maps and replaced it with 3 control points as a way of reworking those maps
If I actually said that they implemented it, it would still be in the game rofl? Where does it say here that they “implemented it”. The context is pretty obvious here.
Sure, wisdom is good but if you’re already knowledgable and overall make good decisions in matches already, there’s no real need for you to be a die-hard player of 5 years or something. The amount of knowledge and skill that pros have make them good players to ask about balance.
Being skilled at something doesn’t mean that you understand how things work and the opposite is also true, a person can understand a lot about the game but not have high skill. I can’t count how many times I’ve seen professional players say stupid things, and also how much their own biases show very often. Just to be clear I’m not saying all of them are this way, but arguing that all of them have what it takes to be taken seriously would also be mistaken. The person I was arguing with about this is going by the fact that a player said something, and according to them that automatically makes it objective, which it isn’t.
Mercy doesn’t need a buff
You might not agree that she needs a buff but for anybody who does it’s going to be frustrating when the devs refuse to say why they won’t acknowledge the buff.
she is performing well
Is she?
some Mercy players just seem unable to accept
The whole point of this post was telling Mercy mains who hadn’t moved on to move on.
a very minor one like 5hps
That’s all that a majority of Mercy mains are advocating for. Apart from the odd nut who want ‘60HPS’ so mercy can rule the Meta again.
Talk about strawman. Who here really mentioned mass Res besides you? It’s not coming back and most accept that. The majority of debates about mass Res nowadays just revolve around defending the belief that it was better than the rework.
We still see threads asking for mass rez to come back often, there is no strawman here, learn what the word means before using it please.
If I actually said that they implemented it, it would still be in the game rofl? Where does it say here that they “implemented it”. The context is pretty obvious here.
No, I’m literally saying that they once removed 2 control points in those respective maps and replaced it with 3 control points as a way of reworking those maps.
You said that, and since I was talking about the live game it is implied that you are talking about the live game, if you weren’t then you should’ve made the observation that you were talking about something else.
Being skilled at something doesn’t mean that you understand how things work and the opposite is also true, a person can understand a lot about the game but not have high skill.
Yes put professional esports players are both skilful and knowledgable. I’m not saying they’re just one or the other. It’s not mutually exclusive.
I can’t count how many times I’ve seen professional players say stupid things, and also how much their own biases show very often.
This is true but this doesn’t discredit the overall notion that professional players are skilful and know a lot about their respective games. It’s just a few rotten apples saying dumb things (usually for clout as well).
Just to be clear I’m not saying all of them are this way, but arguing that all of them have what it takes to be taken seriously would also be mistaken.
Definitely. There have been multiple cases where certain pros can’t be taken seriously (xQc). But in this context, NeptuNo and most other other pros can be taken seriously since most of their feedback and balance opinions have been grounded in logic and fact - not hyperboles.