💔 Bastion ISN’T being forgotten, he’s being ignored

[GrantMan-11889]

In-depth "Tank on E" rework for Bastion Read that one… That’s what I’m working from, not the OP’s Tank on E.

Sentry becomes almost identical to what it was before the rework. Better accuracy, headshots (1.5x just like you suggested yourself), remove Ironclad. He will actually be able to hit his targets, and he will be able to headshot again. Your suggestion has him at a 1.5 degree angle (50% of 3 degrees), whereas mine puts him at 1.25 degrees for 0.3 seconds, and then 2 degrees 0.3 seconds after that. This is almost what he had before, but not quite. He used to start at 1 degree, and bloom to 2 almost instantly.

Most of the rework is putting power back into Sentry mode. Sentry mode gets put back almost exactly where it was, but with the new healing (and Ironclad only while healing). I’m not diluting it just to add Tank to E.

Whether Blizzard does or not is another story, but look at their history thus far. Mercy: Rez on E, new ultimate
Symmetra: Teleporter on E, Photon Barrier moved to ultimate
Torb (speculation based on interviews): Molten core on E, new ultimate

If they’re planning on reworking Bastion at all (and I doubt they would just buff him, they’re reworking basically all of the f-tier heroes), there’s a pretty good chance they’re going to go with Tank on E on their own. If we can get ahead of that, and make good suggestions, we might be able to get a good rework out of it.

Yes, I would love just a Sentry revert. Remove Ironclad, give Sentry it’s power back, leave repair, leave Recon. But by the looks of things, that’s not where they’re headed.

@Zaydar-21654

jumps out and sees another shield or some other hero blocking his crap

So rocket jump, and shoot over the barrier…?

@Zaydar-21654

burst rockets or some crappy 120 damage mini pharah rockets

Pharah does 120 damage, and these move faster… If anything, Pharah would be a mini Tank on E (that can fly)

@Zaydar-21654

That and also considering that the OP wanted him to have to charge each rocket.

That part is kinda dumb, I don’t like that.

@Zaydar-21654

And that’s a completely pointless suggestion, why would we give him some random option so he can transform into other things when ulting instead of simply keeping him as he is right now where his ulting is so strong you don’t want to transform into anything else?

He’s not transforming into random stuff, he’s transforming into stuff he already has… If the situation calls for a lot of sustained damage, use Sentry. If the situation calls for lots of extreme burst damage, use Tank. I still don’t know of a good use for Recon during his ult, I guess running away faster…?

@Zaydar-21654

I never heard anyone say it before I did, if you say there is middle ground, I don’t see it.

Not just ZDamned, quite a few others seem to think that there’s no possible way to balance Bastion. They think that there’s no possible middleground for him. Not just with Tank on E, but with straight Sentry buffs or reverts.

@Zaydar-21654

At a range where Sentry fire is too high spread is a range where even trying to deal damage with Recon becomes not worth trying.

Bastion's real damage output (kinda) Here’s a thread going over his effective Sentry mode DPS at various ranges. He falls off fast with his current Sentry mode, whereas Recon is pinpoint accurate for a few bullets. If you manage your spread, Recon can be very useful at taking out distant targets.