Unpopular Opinion: I like Orphea

General Discussion
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Yes! You answered, THX!!! :3

Hmmm… I guess I need to question it in another way then…
Hmmm… How old her body (supposed to) look(s) like?

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Well, Li-Ming is 19, and Kerrigan was 26 when she first appeared in Starcraft, so “Older than 26”, so I’m not really sure that just being in RCHS really defines an age.

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I just want to go on record that I’m happy you folks are addressing matchmaking, and I like the proposed changes.

More on-topic: Looking forward to trying Orphea. I like that you’re trying something different.

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15-16 is what it looks like to me.

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If she was a human, living on earth, I would even say younger than that.

But she is the daughter of a Realm Lord, living in the Nexus (which has its own weird time laws) so she could really be any age. I mean if David Tennant can be 900+. then really, anything is possible :smiley:

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I tried her on PTR against AI, she’s harder to use than I thought she’d be.
But she is very fun, and I’m definitely buying her as soon as she comes out on live. She may be one of my most played characters.

Ravenous Hunger might scale up too quickly.
On the other hand you do need to land a killing blow with it.
On heroes it can be hard to get kills, much less be in position to be the one dealing the finishing blow.
On minions it does force her into lane, and has a longer cooldown compared to something like Ragnaros Empower Sulfuras.
3 hero kills or 60 minion kills to gain the same % increase that Sulfuras Hungers gives Ragnaros after 30 minion kills.
It doesn’t heal her (except on kills), and she’s not as tanky, so finding opportunities for it may be difficult. She can be more mobile though, and the disengage talent can help make it safer.

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Are we going through character’s ages? In this case I’ll play the buzzkill and say that Murky is certainly younger than that.

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I would guess Lili and Murky share the honor of being the first underage combatants in the game.

You can literaly see Murky hatch every game :rofl:

According to WoW wikis Lili was 10-12 by the war against the LIch king, and going by her lines and attitude i would assume that is the incarnation they went with.

Goes to show that HoTS is an inclusive game where people of all origins, sexes, ages and planes of existence can mercilessly kill each other on behalf of powerful overlords.

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You are all forgetting Pajamathur! He is the youngest between all.

Look what I’ve found on Youtube. The video is unlisted, so please don’t delete it Blizzard, they are soooo adorable!!! :baby:

Edit: you may find this hero spotlight funny and worth reading:
https://www.heroesfire.com/hots/forum/news/pajamathur-hero-spotlight-61

It also has more adorable Pajamathur videos :heart_eyes:

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Well looks like we will have some changes to Orphea before she hits live! That said… They really should be looking at Ancestral strength though… That’s the biggest offender as a level 1 talent!

We have a couple of balance changes lined up for Orphea when she hits live servers that didn’t quite make it into the PTR build. Specifically, we’re looking to increase the base cooldown of Shadow Waltz and reduce the power of the Ravenous Hunger and Eldritch Conduit talents. While it was fun to see how much damage players were able to build Chomp up to, we felt those talents were overperforming, and we’re excited to see what other builds and playstyles players will come up with when she is finally released in the Nexus. :slight_smile:

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/9vc113/heroes_of_the_storm_postblizzcon_2018_developer/e9aztrb/

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Really that old? In Mists, which takes place after lich king, I estimated her to be 9.
Huh.
Attitude is unbeatable regardless.

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Uh… a pretty huge portion of the player base? Hell, most of us have been asking for more lore since CBT. Sure over the years we grew a little more silent because it was pretty obvious that Blizzard was focused a little more on the technical side of the game, but a large portion of us have always wanted more lore. When they started doing the comics I know I was beside myself because I had more lore to devour, and I had a small inkling that maybe, just maybe, they’d introduce a hero that came specifically from the Nexus and not from another Blizzard universe. Blizzard has done an astounding job adding heroes that players have been clamoring for this year. I reckon announcing Orphea after spending an entire year releasing highly requested characters is something that Blizzard is perfectly within their right to do. Orphea is a way to allow them to “reset” their creative juices after spending so long hammering out highly requested heroes.

Also, this kit wasn’t given to an Old God because its not void magic, its dead magic. If Orphea was toting around some void magic, then sure I’d say you would have a point. But she’s not, so your point doesn’t really have any ground to stand on.

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Emo girls played video games saving princesses using male characters.

Emo girls grew up, tough as F.

Emo girls joke about pain and death.

Emo girls have always see games as your world.

Emo girls were emo like 15 years ago.

Emo girls are now 30.

You boys grew up and just now are becoming emo.

You used to joke about gamer girls being this and that.

Young girls play the way you played 15 years ago.

And you are now gamer boys.

No offense.

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Defining what type of magic it is isn’t really part of the kit, it is just flavor text.

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Indeed, speak for yourself. Don’t let YOURS suddenly mean more than the rest.

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Get me right here: I have no problem with her kit. It looks really fun to play. No, I have an issue with the idea and the design of this new character.

I don’t like the nexus having its own characters, but if that was what you wanted to do, I just strongly feel like you should have gone another way than an overused cliché of “anime young girl with dark powers”. Not only that but I don’t feel like we had any element from the cinematic or even the comics to have some sort of emotional atachment to her. I’ve read and seen everything and the only thing I remember is that she’s the raven lord’s daughter and she doesn’t like him… The dialogues in the cinematic were totally generic and could fit almost any form of conflict. On the side of the characters’ powers, nothing was mesurable and that, personnally, took me away from the fight. It seems like I should feel like these abilities they threw at each others are powerful, but at the same time neither of them seem to be even remotely incapacitated by the blows they receive. There was no scale of power to make me interested in the fight. In clear, I watched two characters I know nothing about, splashing red and purple paint at each other. Especially for a character that was never introduced, it is necessary to establish a background when you make a cinematic, and that was simply not done there.

That comment is starting to be long, but my point is: I don’t like her anime design (doesn’t fit in HotS), and I can’t bring myself to care about a character I barely know.

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How do you know it’s “dead magic”? And even if it was, I don’t see how that invalidates my point: the graphics could be slightly changed to fit the other theme.

It’s purple tentacles. That feels pretty Old Gods to me.

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I really don’t mind Orphea (not excited about her either).
And while I hope to see Hogger one day (that lad is way overdue :alarm_clock:), I’m not someone who’s opposed to heroes outside the main Blizzard Triumvirate Warcraft, Starcraft & Diablo.
The Overwatch Heroes are a nice change really. So bring on the Hearthstone, HoTS and classic heroes (but probably in smaller doses as more people prefer the big franchises (which Overwatch is really part of too now)).

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It’s so cliche right? Name 3 pieces of media where you’ve seen the trope in action. Go!

Just because something is a known trope, it doesn’t mean it is necessarily bad if it’s done well.

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I just wish you did a better job on her character design. She looks like an ugly 13 year old girl carrying a coffin on her back.

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