Buyers of cards can sell them back for a market price, not buyers of lootboxes. Cards have a set monetary value, lootbox items really do not. Which is why they switched to these gems and shards garbage.
Loot boxes inprove the value of your account should you decide to try to sell it, soā¦ nope(some itens on steam vastly outvalue every card you can imagine on MTG or yugioh)
And even the price behind cards are extremely volatile, just as the digital goods tend to be: The price of cards tend to float dramatically between the metas and change every time a new pack is released
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That āmarket priceā isnāt ANYWHERE close to the cost of a pack of cards. The only way to make money on TGCs is to get lucky getting a valuable card and then sell that on EBAY.
And technically, I could sell my HotS account as well. In fact, it would be easier as it is all digital and wouldnāt require any shipping and handling.
Edit: Also, how does lack of āreal world valueā make a difference when we are talking about gambling addiction? Does someone who has lost millions of dollars playing poker any less of an addict just because he would have got āreal moneyā if he had won?
Itās against the TOS to sell your account, there is no market price for your account at all by blizzard standards. And poker and other gambling games donāt have any items that have monetary value, they have chances to win the prize. Notice I used the word āchancesā as in, you are paying for the opportunity to play a game, and you hope that you get the prize of a result
When you are paying for card packs, you are just paying for cards and it happens that you can get more rare cards. The price of the pack is for the average card, not for the chance.
The items of your account are meaningless digital bits. They have no backed up value, just like everything else that is digiital. If the game shut down in the next few seconds, what would you retain? Memories for sure, but you canāt sell memories.
Except no, selling your account is a violation of the End User License Agreement and therefore has no actual value in a court of law.
Therefore, it actually holds no real world legal value.
Exactly this. Physical TCG cards are not even remotely the same as loot boxes, even if the concept of randomized items for a set price is similar.
Cash doesnāt have a monetary value?!?
Are you using that cash to pay for items required to play the game?
Or
are you using that cash to pay for opportunities to play the game?
Because one is a ccg and one is a poker game.
If you dont think real cards are prone to this, search for the value behind elemental heroes and a monster named fiend comedian on yugiohā¦
Elemental heroes got a super hype moment because they were the archetype on the protagonistās deck at the anime, but that faded hard when people lost faith and the deck got eclisped, even the rarest cards of the archetype are barely worth anything now
The fiend comedian is even weirder: The card was always one of those high risk-high reward coin flips and was never worth muchā¦ until the expansion that made lightsworn decks ascend to S tier came in play, the value of the comedian sky-rocketed because he complemented the deck insanely well(because if you ālostā the coin flip, the bad effect filled your graveyard and lightworn powers up when the graveyard if packed), and then another expansion came that eclisped the lightsworn and the card value went āpoofā literally overnight
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tldr
THE GOVERNMENT IS COMING TO SHUT DOWN HOTS AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOUāRE MENTALLY 5YO
So what youāre saying is, they had a monetary value that depreciated over time, but at one point they had a solid monetary value.
Are you telling me the lootbox items you buy in this game will suddenly be negated by items in the future? Because I still use an aba skin from 3 years ago, and I donāt think they can make any future skin that is going to depreciate itās value.
And btw you can still resell those cards, for a monetary value, and/or physical value. Turn em into coasters if you really want to.
Steam cardsā¦ buyng a set of steam cards gives you a lootbox and there is an official market for wathever you get, soā¦ nope
The card value of real cards on MTG and yugi is anything but stableā¦
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Digital items that once again arenāt backed by anything but the companyās very fickle promise of letting you use itās game. You get banned or they shut down, tough luck kid.
When you buy physical cards you are definitely obtaining a monetary value of it. Nobody can take them away from you.
No, just pointing out that the value on both cases is very much arbitraryā¦
The value on phisycal cards is just as volatile as the value on digital loot, it floats accordingly to the current meta that changes drastically almost at random
Even if you cant make profit from hots lootboxes, steam and most cellphone games have an official market for those(unless you are going to make the law hots-specific??? Because dota and smite ALSO have the concept attached to the steam market)
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Iām talking about PHYSICAL cards.
So yes, Steam Cards SHOULD be regulated too.
All of your arguments are false equivalencies.
Pretty sure that isnāt trueā¦ An arsonist or a thief could take them away from me.
(Yes, I am being silly with this post, but your statement is equally as silly.)
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Bro, the value of everything is arbritrary by the laws of supply and demand lmao, that has nothign to do with ownership.
And the value of the physical cards arenāt volatile, you know what they are worth, and when the new set will invalidate all cards, or you can at least speculate.
At least you admit to being silly lol. Iām saying whoever sold you those cards canāt take them away from you because they sold you ownership of them. Can you do that with virtual items? Nah, you sign a EULA agreement.
In fact, if a thief is stealing them from you, doesnāt that imply value? Same with an arsonist, assuming heās doing it to piss you off.
Yes, but the value will drop to nothing if wizard of the coast or wathever publisher goes under, the value of a normal terrain in MTG is literally less than the fancy material that makes the card
And funny fact: Most of the money in the world happens to be digital: The amount of cash a bank holds is mostly in the form of contracts and the value of that piece of paper or life in the database will also vanish if the other party refuses to pay. It everyone does it, most of the money in the world will vanish just like that because it dont actually have a physical existence, the money the government prints dont match the amount it ācreatesā in the form of credits, wich happens to be nothing but promisses at the end of the day
Im still waiting what is the grand point that makes steam cards that different from MTG cards you knowā¦