If someone on my team purposefully bans my hero I normally just play Murky or Prob.
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Which is what i said 
Also i gotta disagree with you on the part you said about OTPs being cheezy running the same tactics like that, atleast at higher ranks, i donât really notice them at lower ranks tbh.
Because however way your gonna try to cheeze it, they stil have to play properly, take camps, play the map soak the lanes, whatever anyplayer does at a decent rank.
The only cheeze tactic i know that used to work at higher ranks was the Leoric death tactics when his passive had such a low CD, that he camped at enemy towers, sieged, died, ressed, sieged and died til he was at the core.
Which had no counter play to it apart from rushing the enemy core on one lane, even Morales Taxi saw more play at that time, since we usually had to push 1 lane, to then Taxi to their Nexus to try and finish before the enemy team.
A match would commonly last about 10mins during that time, and they were incredibly boring.
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Fine. If youâre good with those its a win. If you suck we all report you. Truly a win win.
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A truly false reporter we see here, who reports people for his own sake. 
At least I am not surprised why I donât saw you complaining about the flawed system and it makes sense, because then you couldnât abuse it anymore. And yes this sounds like an ad hominem, but itâs also the truth, because you abuse the system for your own sake. You report OTPs, because you donât like them in ranked. I donât see how this is legit and not false.
Exactly the reason why I said Generalist vs OTP balance it out, because both have strengths and weaknesses. This knowledge is mandatory to mastering a hero, but you wouldnât have it, if you only play one hero⌠at least itâs harder to impossible to get into.
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A single report after Iâve reported you. Lose, lose IMO.
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If you feed i bet youâll get reported by nore than just me. Having your hero banned is no excuse for feeding. Enemies have messaged me before saying that they reported x for feeding and ive done the same for them.
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True, but there is a difference between âfeeding on purposeâ and âfeeding by playing badâ. The latter isnât reportable for a good reason.
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Just FYI, I got to masters rank, 10000 points, by onetricking Chromie.
And I won 6 out of the 7 games I didnât get Chromie. (Out of a total of 77)
I do think that might have been back when you couldnât see your opponents name, though.
But even after the change I feel like I didnât get target banned very often. It was mostly only if I played consecutive matches and the players in the previous match is on the opposing team.
A onetrick pony that literally can only play the one hero is obviously screwed if it gets banned, but a onetrick pony with plenty of backup weapons? You just make the enemy waste a ban while complimenting you.
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Because they can pretty much succeed much harder with a far more better build? Niche situation exists sure but Focus Fire has been a terrible talent ever since release of Tracer with only one situation (that has been nerfed with untouchable being nerfed).
Tracer tree is one of the very most one dimensional and talent flexibility always stuck on one choices on a lot of the tiers with minor exceptions such 1, 10, 16 which fall under niche, yet I very much seen one tricks recommend parting gift of all things, some even leeching rounds current state which is just an alternative that does similar to its rework patch predecessor.
Of course this doesnât really apply always, Heat Blast build has been recommended by some OTP yet mathematically itâs an underperforming build in comparison to meteor build yet it stucks to some as they only rag build.
OTP have a lot of stubbornness, even when represented with actual situations or math on consistency they seems to be unable to answer it in a lot of the cases.
If you unable to answer others with situations of certain builds that have shown a lot of success, have you truly mastered that hero?
This is why I rather not have OTP because their pride is just big enough that itâs a problem during the draft screen not to mention the instant bans from your team and enemy (if theyâd do it) and even if they pick their hero they are very much auto drafted with counters.
Some people consider a talent bad because they are bad and they donât understand itâs true potential.
Best example Iâve got: Old Chromie Time Trap reset talent.
Around the time it was implemented, most people would tell you that youâre a massive worthless noob if you donât go for Bronze Talons.
It took a long time for public opinion to start changing. And then it eventually got reworked because it was too strong.
Yet most people claimed it was bad to begin with.
Thatâs another curious thing. A good OTP can change how the âmetaâ works. IE, what would usually be considered a counter to the hero a OTP is playing, is not when against this OTP.
Another easy example for me would be my Old Chromie.
I remember an enemy player drafting Illidan against me. Worst decision of his life. To a good Chromie that was using time traps, an illidan by himself is a piece of cake to handle.
My team was quite surprised to see how Illidan is not the conventional counter to Chromie they thought he was
I actually think itâs a problem for people who are too concerned with the meta or heroesprofile stats on talents. It might limit peopleâs thinking and flexibility because they rely on the meta rather than figuring it out themselves and maybe making a new meta to beat the old.
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Thatâs the thing, its a very rare sight, personally I always found the time reset sleeper OP and people being stubborn is also a true case too.
OTPs are just a general chaotic tide, sometimes they even recommend terrible talents.
It goes both ways, I think its best to just to keep the interpretation to what suits you the most to yourself than others, after all itâs what makes you⌠you.
Maybe, but sometimes itâs not bad to know the meta or certain talents that are useful. Everyone of us knows how good some heroics/talent choices are in some circumstances and itâs frustrating, when you see one teammates, who picks a weird talent and fails with it. Best example is probably The Butcher, who donât pick Lamp.
Meta picks are usually formed by experience.
Well if they canât even give proper reason and context for the talent, thatâs on them, yeah.
But the same goes for most players, OTP or not.
Not really sure what you mean here. The interpretation of what exactly? What talents are good? Why should they keep it to themselves?
Aaaand whatâs wrong with the other ult?
Lamp is most ideal if one actually has gathered a decent amount of meat. If youâve basically been forced to go vegan in a match, then furnance is a better option. There isnât much point in Lamping an enemy player if your AAâs hit as hard as Probiusâ.
It is ironically the people who check metas/sites that are more likely to do talent mistakes, in my opinion. Because they just check sites and metas. They donât consider the situation or synergy or anything. They never bothered considering such stuff because theyâve never had to. They just click the thing that they were told to pick or whatever had the highest win% on Heroesprofile.
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What I mean is, pick what suits you the most or comfortable with.
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Yeah, people have that freedom. Nobody is forced to take a talent or go for a specific build. But whatâs the problem if somebody wanted to give advice for a build that they feel works?
If theyâre bad and donât make sense, then thatâs the end of it and you can ignore his bad advice. But to me it seems that youâre saying that because there are OTP that give bad advice, that all OTPs should just shut up and let everyone else do what they wantâŚ?
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may i ask what is your winrate and number of games for TLV (game mode and solo/party info is also welcome)
My experience with OTPs has been negative, so Iâm very skeptical from their advice especially when Iâm suggesting things it seems to go full circle everytime.
This is all opinionated, maybe you had a better experience than me.
So you got bad advice from OTPs and now you donât want bad advice at all from OTPs, is what I understand.
Just how bad were those experiences that itâs to the point that youâre still hung up about it? O_o
I mean⌠it just seems⌠I donât know how to put it⌠kinda illogical?
Is it illogical to point fingers on all of them? Yes definitely but Iâm just tired of listening to the same obnoxious elitist mentality that keeps radiating from a lot of them without taking suggestions or things to try, so I just donât wanna bother.
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Thatâs my personal bias against it for two reasons:
- raw damage < cc
- itâs harder to get value out of it, because itâs easy to dodge and hard to time.
I know that the second point is rather an l2p issue than an arguement, but I still prefer an easy cc/silence than hard timed nuke. Especially because his 20 is an aoe cc binded on a hard carry, which is insane for me.
Well I donât use metas/sites for my heroes, but my own experience I just mentioned it, because itâs usually goes on par with my own experience, because this sites are usually a reflection of experience.