Deathwing&QuickMatch w/o Healer

Please match Deathwing to both teams or none, if no Healer is avaiable for the Match.

under these conditions his trait becomes op, and it’s simply unfair, if just one team have a Deathwing. For the Team w/o him It’s practically impossible to win.

ty, my regards,

Zombiemett

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well he’s counted as a “bruiser” so they really can’t control him if he should be mirrored or not it’s random that’s Quickmatch. they can’t make it so he can appear in both teams and no he’s not op and it’s not impossible to win against him if your team doesn’t have him too nor have a healer~

By this logic Dehaka, thrall, blaze , DVA should also has a mirror match

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DW’s trait has as much value without a Healer as he has with a Healer.
And as someone who played DW to lvl 15, I rather face a team which has a Healer than a team which does not. So they do’t have that much dmg to always force me to retreat like a scared dog.

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The math is simple: DWs powerful trait is balanced by positive and negative effects. If the biggest negative effect is applied to everyone, his trait isnt balanced anymore.

be sure they can.

idk about that but be sure they won’t do it cause mirror matches aren’t good.

in this case, it is.

if you had this experience just one time, you will understand this request.

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no it isn’t. not because of a hero some people think he’s “broken” and whoever get’s him = free win that doesn’t mean he should be mirrored every match. and no don’t worry about me i’ve been playing for a good 5 years i know a lot about the game and heroes and how to counter them / play around them i have a brain to use so i never complain about any hero that’s released i didn’t complain even about the days when hanzo and genji were pain in the !@# lol

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This is not the reason why i did this request. in any other Constellation DW is fine, even matched one sided. But in this single scenario (no healer in match, one sided matched) he’s just op.

so your request is to have DW in both teams if the match has no healers? idk how would that even work honestly.

Remove Abathur vs Tassadar/Zarya then, because one team has healing from Aba, when other don’t.

I would be happy to see that, but I don’t make a post to ask it

exactly.

Does any Hero of the team get exclusively permanent +100% Spell Damage to Heroes, up to 40 Armor and unstoppable in exchange? no? I hope you see the difference now.

Does any hero have -50% dmg to none heroes, delay before using ALL abilities, healing only from Z/fountain/healing globes but not B-teleport or allies?

And about Aba - he has not only healing, but GLOBAL healing.

He still does 100% Damage to non-Heroes.

isn’t part of the trait thus it isn’t part of the discussion.

Ask yourself and answer this:

DWs trait is balanced - check
his biggest disadvantage from trait is not beeing able to get heal from Teammates - check
his trait advantages are enormous - check

If his biggest disadvantage applies to any Hero on Ground, how can he still be balanced?

Alarak (he can actually get even more).

You know that he’s balanced around his “extra +100% spellpower against Heroes” so he’s not that strong against PvE. The idea that he can deal his real dmg only to Heroes and not that he gets eVeN morE dMg against Heroes.

There are Heroes with higher and or more reliable armor values (I dare to believe that if I’d ask you when do you want more armor you’d answer: “when I’m low hp” and not “when I’m totally fine anyway”.

Having perma unstoppable is quite a perk, but in exchange, he cannot be buffed, healed or interacted by allies and allied units, and there are ways to punish that remarkable feat.

Also, every Hero can be listed in that fashion, mentioning all their special perks and uniqueness. That doesn’t prove they’re op just because they’re unique.

This might help your struggles a bit:

Alarak gets +100% Spell damage, because there is no heal in game? interesting.

permanent armor based on their hp in exchange for a negative effect? which one?

Yep. that’s what Im saying. And no heal from mates is the biggest Disadvantage; but in this Scenario no heal applies to everyone, so its no exclusive DW disadvantage anymore rather anyones disadvantage… do you get it now?

I’m not saying DW is op overall and should been matched mirror anytime. I’m just talking about matches where no healer is present.

Alarak gets +100%+ spell power against Heroes with or without heals and buffs he’s able to recieve.

It’s not permanent and not based o their hp. That’s Garrosh.
DW starts with armor but loses is until he flies up to the skies again, something he cannot do during a fight.

His telegraphed and delayed abilities are his biggest disadvantage and the fact that once he gets low, he’s squishier than a lot of squishies.

I get it that you don’t think logically and think if you list his uniqueness he’ll somehow be proven to be op.

(Also, the fact that you editted (not due to typos) that prev comment already 3 times while I’m writing the answer shows that you act through emotions and your judgment is clouded.)

…and he gets this +100% SpellPower in exchange for what? And which Match-Constellation does equalize this exchange disadvatage for getting this +100 Spell damage? Same questions to garroshs armor.

There are characters that get stupidly powerful without the use of hard CC to stop them, namely Qhira, Sonya, etc. There are also cheese things you can do like Aba Sam, Li Ming Butcher, etc that need some form of counter to not get steam rolled.

DW is far from the first to be problematic in QM. He’s not breaking the mode anymore than it already was.

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He just gets it. No disadvantage, no drawback, he just has it. With a higher potential. A much higher.

So there are Heroes who have it, and DW got it in an exchange, and thus he’s op?..

Also not just Healers, but Tanks, Supports and Bruisers (which latter DW always faces) can buff/heal allies as well, but not DW. So his trait has a downside in almost every game, even in QM.