Vision of Darkness is ridiculous

Go watch Pockettrain at currently rank 7 with this deck. Tell me it’s bad. How do you need more proof that it’s a good deck? Holy cow. From what I’ve seen today 1/3 of top 20 players are playing it. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills because forum trolls are in denial.

I think you’re just bad at understanding statistics and rely on anecdotal evidence, as was mentioned previously, and for some reason you can’t understand what it is you don’t understand. It’s going to make you feel crazy.

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Seeing as this thread is on top I’m gonna give my own anecdote of my control-ish priest beating a BDK just now

I say “ish” because the deck started as my “play finale cards” daily quest deck, but I switched stuff around it ended up having some thief/control stuff, including svalna.

And I beat this DK not from the visions (they helped a bit), but by the little two drop mind eater… who was ressed by animate dead… and it copied their patchwerk… which then ate his morgraine so he basically lost his only* way to burn me and he quit there.

I think the lesson from all this old man rambling about his HS story is that if you’re control, you’re just giving the opponent too much time to setup or simply luck into something to kill you with. It doesn’t have to be vision of darkness.

(*he might still have other ways but he quit so I wouldn’t know)

So you are saying it’s a bad deck? Ok buddy. Have you looked at anyone playing it that knows how to pilot it? Have you played it? I’m really thinking anyone with over 500 posts types in the forums more than actually plays the game.

Also, watching someone at top 20 legend play against 1/3 oppenents with this deck is not anecdotal. People hitting 1 Legend with this deck is not anecdotal. Do you know the meaning of the word?

Hasnt the game sort of turned into removal wars. I mean there aren’t many board based decks still in the game. Its pretty much build/cheat out a bunch of big guys in a single turn over and over and your opponent either has removal every turn or they dont and lose.

The days of I play a couple of minions, then you play a couple of minions so on and so forth has sort of left the game for good.

Also pretty much every card generates another card in hearthstone right now.

No. I am not commenting on the deck. I am only commenting on your inability to understand things. It’s quite possible your lack of understanding is purposeful and that you just enjoy the confrontation. I am going to actually assume that’s what you are doing and put you on my ignore list because it isn’t worth talking to you or seeing what you say.

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I think it’s painfully obvious at this point that this is exactly his issue. And I don’t think he even knows what anecdotal evidence is.

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… yes, after it got nerfed…

That says more about what those people like to play and what they experience doesn’t mean squat to everyone else.

Do you play top 20 legend? Then what they do isn’t relevant to you.

The real point in all of this back and forth: What are you doing wrong that you don’t win more games against control priest? That should be the focus of the topic so you can figure out why everyone else is farming a deck you struggle with. That answer might actually make you climb the ladder instead of just crying to the people here who can’t do anything even if they agreed with you.

There are always decks that work in that meta that get absolutely broken destroyed by the rest of the meta because that rank has a separate set of decks and preferences.

If you want to see what mean, go to the VS data reaper report and look through play rates of different decks and you will see what I mean. There are some decks that happen two or three times more often in top 1k than the rest of the ladder, and that really matters when you look at what a deck can do.

Go back a year, two years, and look at the same data. Don’t be shocked when top 1k plays more rogue and control priest than everyone else because any time either of those types are remotely viable they get played to death top 1k.

When you look at a win rate you should understand that it’s a weighted average that changes based on the number of each deck it has to face.

If a deck sees its best or worse match up twice as much at a given rank, that really impacts the perception of the deck’s power. Control priest does best when it can tailor the list to match the meta it is playing, and the more niche the meta the easier that is to accomplish.

Against the whole field of decks, control priest isn’t good.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I decided to take a look at this guy on Twitch.

Streamed: 8 days ago - his most recent video. Also went through his stream 10 days ago.

You know what he’s playing MOSTLY at that Top 100 Legend area!?!?

ENRAGE WARRIOR
DEMON HUNTER
PALADIN

You wanted to push this narrative that he’s playing Priest, as if he’s exclusively playing Control priest, to get to this high legend rank…and it turns out he’s not even playing it, and IF he’s playing it, he’s playing VERY FEW GAMES, but he’s mostly playing…

DRUMROLL

ENRAGE WARRIOR
DEMON HUNTER
PALADIN

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And THAT’s how he’s ranking up. He’s not ranking up by using Control Priest and just owning people left and right like you want everyone on here to believe.

He’s literally playing the top tier decks, NOT the TIER 3 DECKS, to maintain his rank.

I can’t believe you really tried to push this narrative, asked me to do research, I did, and then the research…PROVES ME RIGHT and PROVES YOU COMPLETELY WRONG.

But hey guys, don’t take my word for it!

Go check out his Twitch and see exactly how Kiteless literally lied to himself

Anyone can watch this vid and see how the player YOU suggested was using this deck as a GOOD PLAYER to get to HIGH LEGEND…only to see that he’s not even using the deck but instead is using the BETTER decks…

I haven’t seen a self-ownage on these forums in a long time, but here you are…oh goodness. I haven’t laughed this much in awhile. Thank you.

And it gets even better…and when he does use Priest:

at 2:10:00 you can see he’s using…some aggro Priest that’s not even running Vision of Darkness.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

This narrative you tried to push that these top streamers are “getting high legend” with this deck is so absurdly false. He’s CLEARLY using a VARIETY of decks, of which the vast majority is stuff like DEMON HUNTER and NOT CONTROL PRIEST…

And here you are, mad as heck, trying to get others to believe people are using this specific Control Priest deck to rank up high all while COMPLETELY leaving out the important part that they are using OTHER DECKS to get that high.





And wait! Here’s the BEST PART!

When he uses the actual Control Priest deck:

at 1:45:00…HE LOSES.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I’ve never seen someone be SO WRONG before… :rofl:

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…well, look at the bright side schyla. At least we made use of control priest to play around at mid legend before the mini set, right?

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So what ?

I also playing secret mage to the climb to legend and it isn’t dificult to win either.

It’s overpowered now?

And the top 1K meta is just bizarre in the sense that there are people who literally play decks that would be completely unviable on the lower ladder.

In the end if you think that it’s so broken just shut up and use it.
Nothing you do will help it get nerf more than that.

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I’m enjoying it as much as I can and my deck version seems to be doing very well…but I’m terribly bored with the meta, I’m ready for the expansion and this new mode.

And if you watch the 1:45:00 moment from that Top legend player, he makes a mistake that likely costs him the game, and the chat even comes alive saying he makes mistakes all the time with Control Priest…which is hilarious, because according to Kiteless here, that guy is supposed to be the pro.

Pros are not always the best players, especially so with a certain style of deck.

good job on posting a thesis about a vod over a week old. pocket himself wasn’t streaming when i posted this. Mryagut was in top 20 legend range and went up against pocket multiple times. Go watch that vod. Also other priests. Wow you are the most cringe thing i’ve ever run into. and i’ve seen some stuff man.

also i never said i hated this deck. it got me to legend. it’s great. but it’s also going to catch nerfs cause it’s pure misery and it it’s too good.

turn off your caps button please.

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you were the one who told him to watch that streamer … he did
proved you wrong
then why are you so angry about him doing what you told him to do ?

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Him and Piter are so angry. It’s actually quite hilarious and this point.

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Clearly. It’s a checkmate.

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VS

  • Control Priest looks alarmingly strong at top legend. Relic DH is the major factor stopping us from revisiting Forged in the Barrens. This one oppressive matchup currently keeps Control Priest from a Tier 1 spot. Pure Paladin maintains a good matchup against Priest, but it’s not as dominant as it used to be. Other counters do exist and are being developed, such as Secret Rogue. We also believe the inflated popularity of Spooky Mage is partially caused by the desperation to counter Priest.

Oh wow look. I copy and pasted data that proves that this is a strong deck.
I’m just so darn angry.
It has one bad matchup, as I said before.
I’m going to leave you kids to your gold playing status or battlegrounds or whatever it is you do in this game that isn’t actually playing this game.

Ahem, from vs

  • Control Priest looks alarmingly strong at top legend. Relic DH is the major factor stopping us from revisiting Forged in the Barrens. This one oppressive matchup currently keeps Control Priest from a Tier 1 spot. Pure Paladin maintains a good matchup against Priest, but it’s not as dominant as it used to be. Other counters do exist and are being developed, such as Secret Rogue. We also believe the inflated popularity of Spooky Mage is partially caused by the desperation to counter Priest.

The only bad matchup as I stated is Relic DH.

So actually agains the whole fields it’s better than most by far.

Enjoy being wrong with actual data from a sight you all love so much, but need it to tell you what’s good or bad without making your own decision. I’m starting to doubt any of you play this game beyond gold.