So not everyone uses it. Go watch some of the top players. They use Firestone. Also, it’s not a popular deck for climbing. So it’s bad even though several people have used it to hit number 1 legend? OK. Please explain going 30 games with a winning record to hit legend or even number one legend? Those are facts. I’ve said nothing biased. It’s what is actually happening in the game. OH how dare I say your favorite deck is powerful. Holy cow I hit the sensitivity button here.
I’ll leave you forum defenders to your biases and clinging to hsreplay instead of your own experiences or that of others you can actually watch or look up stats for yourself.
LOL. I’m biased. Reread what you typed out there.
You’re mighty angry at stats for someone who promised not to reply again.
And, once again, you used anecdotal evidence to try to disprove factual data.
Go do a bit of reading. Or better yet, since you don’t like HSReplay, how about we use the site nearly all top players agree on is the most accurate, VS:
Oh boy, can’t wait to hear your excuse on this one.
It’s always interesting how people like you get SO MAD when data proves them wrong and you guys always go on this little hissy fit rampage and then someone shows hard evidence how you’re wrong and instead of being an adult and saying “looks like I was wrong” you just double down on the ignorance.
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I went on a “hissy fit rampage” for typing out what I’ve seen others do and have done myself with this deck. And for pointing out hsreplay isn’t the end all of this game. You’ve gone full tilt bananas with this. Go touch some grass my dude. Like, relax. Go watch meatman, feno, theo, even pockettrain. They all destroy with this deck. I’m out. You win.
Please take a break from the forums, for your own health.
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Oh my god, what happened to FDK? Tier 4? Start of the expansion everyone was begging for nerfs on it, and now…
30?
that site you use must be a terrible one to use only 30 games
VS collects data from players using firstone too and collects way more data
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I’m pretty sure this poster is just new to either the game, data or both. They have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when it comes to data or statistics and they keep asserting anecdotal type evidence.
The funny thing is this person has zero clue that I also “destroy with this deck” but outliers don’t mean squat. The data is solid, the deck is a Tier 3 deck and even the actual experts say it’s vulnerable.
Straight from VS:
** Not too different from Blood-Ctrl DK, Control Priest is a popular, yet vulnerable deck. What’s most dramatic about its performance in the current meta is how bad the Pure Paladin matchup has become once Horn of the Windlord took over. The off-board burst damage specifically targets a removal-based strategy such as Control Priest, which also doesn’t have too much life gain to combat it. Add the oppressive Relic DH matchup, as well as a tricky Spell DH matchup, and you have a Tier 3 performer across all ranks.*
They’re just posting experience from streamers they watch rather than looking at the overall picture.
This dude COMPLETELY ignored the fact that the data I posted was straight from the TOP 1000 players in HS proving without a shadow of a doubt that it goes against his/her narrative and then wants to insert “go watch XYZ players for yourself” as if those players somehow trump ALL of the TOP 1000 players.
It’s like the equivalent of watching a 9-8 NFL team’s practice game vs their practice squad and insisting it’s the best team in the NFL except for 1 other team because of how well they perform and yet completely ignoring the NFL team’s record which is so bad they couldn’t even make the playoffs.
Control Priest is Tier 3. Wouldn’t even make the playoffs lol
But, nah…it’s definitely extremely good and “the only bad matchups for this deck is relic DH” despite the fact that half of its matchups are red.
Completely ignorant and out of touch of reality.
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so he knows what firestone is
but doenst know VS been using it to collect data for years now ?
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Exactly. He probably just watches streams and gets all his information from just that
You’re just going to HS replay and regurgitating their stats for overall performance on that particular deck but meati hit number one legend with it and we’ve all been seeing it ever since
In the hands of a good player, it’s really tough to beat and being able to generate shadow spells every turn is a big reason why
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You’re parroting the same logical fallacy. People can hit Rank 1 Legend with Tier 3 decks. They do it all the time.
It’s almost as if you guys are COMPLETELY UNAWARE that Hitting Rank 1 Legend with a deck DOESN’T mean it’s the best deck in the game. You know that, right? You can’t possibly be that oblivious.
As soon as someone hits Rank 1 legend with deck A, someone else hits it with deck B, then someone else hits it with deck C and on and on it goes continually throughout the day.
I’m not regurgitating anything. I’m showing you, from MULTIPLE SOURCES, what the data says.
HSReplay has the deck as Tier 3.
VS has the deck as Tier 3.
TempoStorm has the deck as Tier 3.
Why are you guys fighting this?
So you just completely ignore stats that are SPECIFICALLY designed to only look at the best players in the game? Why? I showed the data that has the stats ONLY for the Top 1,000 Legend players in the game, and you ignore it and then turn around and say
as if I didn’t just link you the data of what it does in the hands of the best players.
Do you not see the irony?
Face it. The deck isn’t the best deck in the game, it’s not even close to being the best deck in the game, it’s literally mediocre.
“We recorded a few thousand games of C. Priest and it wins and losses X% against Y%, putting it in this bracket of power”
“Meati got 1st place with this deck”
These are two, completely unrelated statements. Given enough games, any deck and player with a win% will reach 1st place.
Getting 1st place by a pro-plater with a deck doesn’t means it’s broken, just that the player is good.
If the deck itself was particularly strong the data that would point that is average to abd players also winning with it, signified by a larger WR% value.
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didnt some streamers get to legend with warrior before the mini set release and the buffs ? (with a less than 45% win rate deck)that doesnt mean the deck was good
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You’re right. I must see the deck all the fkn time because it just sucks and nobody plays it. I mean who am I supposed to believe? You and HS replay or my lying eyes?
“bUt ThAt’S aNeCDoTaL”
Yeah imagine me going off my own experiences playing the game instead of pouring through spreadsheets compiled by somebody else. I don’t give a damn what thousands of other players are seeing and experiencing. I care about what I experience when I play a game
But you go right ahead and let HS replay and the streamers and whoever the hell else tell you what to think
And even if control priest is a tier 3 deck or whatever, it doesn’t change the fact that that card that I complained about originally is broken in my opinion which is why I started the post. Deck win rates aren’t the be-all end-all of what makes an individual card good or bad
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My argument was never that it wasn’t popular. In fact, I linked a quote stating it’s popular, but not great.
All your reply did was verify what I was saying was accurate.
Something can be popular and mediocre at the same time. The other poster in this thread wants people to believe it’s one of the best decks in the game. Far from the truth, and that was my main rebuttal.
I’m sure it’s not one of the best decks in the game as far as overall win rate goes. With all the aggro out there that can beat you down in five turns, how could it be? It thrives on control decks and there just aren’t that many in this meta
Don’t even try to talk real world in game here my friend. These forum folks are full tilt “but but hsreplay’s numbers!” Three top 200 legend streamers playing it this morning. They’d rather number you to death than concede that the deck may actually be good. And could probably learn to play the deck if they watched some pros, just saying.
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Real world is you getting annoyed because it appears a lot and trying to make up for it so you not have to admit that.
People not play decks only because of their Powerlevel.
Popular decks for sure aren’t bad either but there is a difference between everyone and my dog play the deck and it being overpowered.
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Every single priest after the mini set came out I have beat. Over 300 games with several different decks. I’ve beaten all the control priests I have faced. They are far less oppressive than bdk and only really wins with stalls against other control decks. Keep the board pressure up and you just win.
Enrage warrior beats it, miracle rouge, pure Paladin, relic and spell dh, big hunter, skeleton ++++. What you are saying is flawed and incorrect.
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MrYagut playing for 3 hours at top 20 Legend. 1/3 of matches are against priest. HMMMMMMM. But what would those streamers know about the game? I mean they’re just streamers herp derp. Not like they hit legend every month and know what the best decks are. But yeah, i’m totally not in the real world. Forum trolls need to start watching streamers to get better I think.
Powerlevel is there. Or are people in top 20 legend just trollin viewers that they aren’t even streaming for?
Man I’m delusional.
Get out of gold? 20 characters?