So how are you supposed to kill a Velen with taunt that infinitely keeps resurrecting? This is the most toxic mechanic effect the devs have let through with no quick fix. Unless you run a spell that transforms Velen into another minion which not every class has access to or a silence minion or spell there is nothing you can do. Could anyone with experience with this deck comment and provide some insight on this?
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Bounce it back to their hand.
Bounce it back to their deck.
Remove it from the game.
Steal it.
Make it Dormant.
See, there is lots you can do!
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Ok now I gotta build around this Velen deck great!
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Or, you know, don’t bother teching against every possible situation.
Just accept that you probably lose vs anyone who pulls off that combo.
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most of the "builds " against velen work vs other cards choose the more flexible ones like bob
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The Devs implied they made infinite Velens on purpose and most of their Stans believed them. I’m not so sure it was on purpose because it’s Wild-only and it’s too convoluted to be intentional. They claimed "it works as intended "which is technically true if you forgot how the code of Deathrattles and Battlecries works and then look it up after you dun goofed.
The Devs generally never lie directly: they do propaganda with half truths, and here it fits that MO.
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Warrior, Druid and Priest can ressurect hin.
If you Steel, “Puff”, or Sheep/Hex them, every class can get 1-2 copys with
They should Change the Battlecry of Chaingang to “summon another Chaingang member (or whatever)”.
Infinity/unkillable Minions should not be possible.
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thats not a problem we run more than 1 way to deal with it because of all the cards with taunt lifesteal and or reborn / armor gain
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I can’t tell what you are trying to say.
Are you agreeing with the devs, that the Velen combo works correctly?
Or are you saying it doesn’t?
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It works correctly in the sense that if you design a card to say “Deathrattle: Trigger the Dearthrattles and Battlecries of all of its tribe”, then it will do broken crap.
What I doubt is that when they wrote the thing they anticipated the broken crap.
Are you trying to suggest that some matches you have to lose? Wow, un-winnable games that sounds toxic. What’s the point than? Every match should a small window of opportunity to win otherwise matchmaking is just fixing games which is fraudulent.
if you are playing combo you are more likely to lose to aggro or more likely to lose to combo if you play control
is completely normal for a deck to have something that loses to
if you try to counter every single deck type youll end up making your deck weaker to match ups it should win
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Of course you can still win that match.
Maybe they don’t draw their Velen combo.
Maybe you kill them before they can play it.
Maybe they play it, but they are very low on life and you kill them with a spell.
But, in general, you are likely to lose that match.
They did that already and changed it back.
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undeniable HORRIFIC game design.
its gonna get nerfed. no way it doesn’t.
any time a card forces every other deck to play a certain way, it’ll happen.
of course, this is blizzard so it will take 3 months of data in W/L ratios to determine the obvious that should have never even been released or nerfed Day 1
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This is why they made silence and removal options. It’s really not that difficult to play around unless you insist on only going face which is a smooth brain strategy.
You do realize Velen is priest minion right? The lord of duplicating, yeah, silence or steal it, any smart player won’t play Velen without making sure they can get more first
Royal librarian is a solution every class can use, works on multiple situations and is tradable, I tend to enjoy decks that can just burst to face for the finish for that reason. If they can resummon that thing a few times it can be annoying. They should have just made kayn a neutral with the 17/27 taunts with reborn and lifesteal rush and elusive that are dropped like candy at the parade.
I seriously doubt it’s a design. They pretend it works as intended but I think it’s closer to it works “correctly given how deathrattles and battecries work”. They never design cards for Wild so why would they start now?
I mean I doubt it’s intentional. They dun goofed and now pretend that’s what they wanted.
Just play a Mecha’thun deck. Then those velens help you win because by the time its online you’ve already won.
I like Mecha’thun Shaman because its hard to get a read on my list. Most probably think in playing an overload deck…because i run the quest and all, but it never gets completed lol
Makes me wonder how many opponents try to set up against Brukan coming down only to find a cold grave from Mecha’thun hahaha