They can measure whether the 20000 hunters faced the same mix of decks as the 20000 warriors, and how much those matchups deviated from the average.
If you tracked enough games yourself using the tracker, they could also track what you described.
Including if I put weapon removal in my deck and never faced a weapon for 100 matches until I removed the weapon removal then faced nothing but weapons?
If so, I will concede and download and start using this mystical tracker.
Sure you could track 100 games with removal and 100 without. Hate to say it but 1000 games would be better if you want to get more accurate results, I think there are usually a lot of variations across decks that wonāt settle down in a 100 game sample.
Also youāll want to keep your rank relatively stable.
Youāll need to make sure you create two decks and give them different names for your test.
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If this happens āall the timeā why has one person, not even one person, brought out a screen shot from a tracker to show this? I mean, it would be simple if itās 100% predictable that this happens when you do what you describe?
Repeat it with pencil and paper, but make sure you play long enough to identify what type of list youāre facing because if youāre just tilting when you see a priest or a dk you donāt know what they are playing.
I have tried this experiment myself. Nothing happened. Nothing.
This is the most common complaint and I bet YOU canāt make it happen when you try if you honestly and accurately record your games.
Yes, to an extent that it would be clear if something were off.
Thereās only two control decks that matter right now. If aggro were getting extra control matches, they would show matching to Blood DK (hs replay breaks this down) more than the expected population of blood dk at a given rank. For example (Iām making up hypothetical numbers) if blood dk is 25% and control priest is 5% of the total games recorded in bronze, then we expect every deck to be pretty close to 30% of their matches against those. There may be hiccups where itās a bit higher or lower, but over the thousands of games recordedā¦ itās pretty much exactly the right number. That suggests thereās nothing fishy. If you actually track 100 games with the same deck, though, your going to move into different ranks and your expected distributions will change.
Then I should just accept it like a religion, based on faith? Because thatās the only thing that happens outside of evidence. You are in a cult if you believe this without evidence.
So stop plugging anecdote in an seriously record your games to check for yourself. Literally start tracking what you play and what you face.
You guys canāt even all agree on what we are talking about and you ignore everyone who shows you why youāre wrong.
Pretty sure you guys are either trolls, or legitimately just pigs rolling around in your own filth of stupid.
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One of the largest parts of my argument isā¦ why canāt you just believe these people without needing a screenshot?"
A lot of people see this weird stuff happening.
You know, there was a period of human history where not every person had a camera in their pocket and you just had to take their word for stuff?
Youāre defending this tracker like Iām attacking it. Iām not really.
Iām just asking you to open your mind and understand people have experiences that arenāt recorded on a chip.
Sometimes those experiences are enough to keep peoples wallets in their pockets, regardless of the ādataā.
Many nerfs and buffs are done, not JUST based on data, but when things just āfeel badā.
For me itās because Iām a curious person, so I read something and think, I wonder if thatās true? Then see if thereās a way to work it out and if so, work it out.
Mum, bless her, when she was alive ran a clinic that healed people with special healing hands powers. Never worked on me. If she asked my opinion I shared it.
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COMPLETELY INVALID.
Thatās right, your āargumentā is completely not a thing.
āBecause I said so in an anonymous online forumā is not a reason for anything.
But read this part again:
I used a tracker. I checked.
If you canāt show me a counter example, then my evidence trumps your anonymous assertions. Do you understand this? This isnāt a hard concept.
Mandela effect. Look it up.
Memory is fickle, confirmation bias is a thing, and there are other reasons people can be skeptical of what they think they see.
This is exactly why people want to see something more than anonymous claims.
No, thatās not what you are doing. You are asking me to share your delusions and take on faith that youāre an expert.
Seriously, I bet you get duped by people all the time if youāre this naive.
What does this even have to do with anything? Are you saying that blizzard nerfs and buff based on your delusions of rigging?
You need some meds, mate.
I have run several trials to see what happens.
Specifically, running anti weapon stuff in a deck didnāt affect opponents at all.
Show me the toes!
You didnāt hear this story! You live in a cave in the past month.
A Church published a miracle of a lady growing severed toes. But she wonāt show the toes.
I donāt believe her, do you?
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Well. Again. Youāre wrong.
I have been including the hundreds of people I have seen over the last seven years on these forums experiences.
I will now dismiss them as itās become too complicated for you.
I will water it down to one experience.
Mine.
Itās not the āMandela effectā (look it up, youāre not even using the term correctly)
Mandela is about memory. Iām talking present tense, the day it happens, no need for recall.
When Death Knights 1st came out I played 95% of my games as the Frost Dk. (no, I donāt have a chart for you, it was most of my games, ok?)
I would see the same 3 opponents, constantly.
If I switched from DK to do a quest, I would see new classes as my opponents.
It was as plain as day, nothing to do with Nelson Mandela.
Donāt tell me what I saw.
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Which is where the mandela effect comes inā¦
Because you canāt bring a deck tracker so we donāt have to just take your word for it? Because basic evidence is beyond your grasp?
This is utterly moronic, mate. Utter rubbish that you refuse to accept that you canāt just make claims without proof. Especially when youāre making them anonymously on the internet.
I didnāt.
I asked you to make it so we could see it, too.
Because I think youāre absolutely stuck to it now that youāve been such an donkey about it and if you have even the hint of evidence to back your claims you would have been rubbing everyoneās nose in it every chance you could.
Madela is about group failures related to memories of what you saw. Events that never happen join the collective memory, like your rigging that isnāt actually a thing is suddenly what people claim every time they lose.
Itās clear to me that you are not a serious person, you have major issues in your life, and serious intellectual consideration is above your powers.
I will gladly add you to the troll farm full of ignored people.
Cheers, mate!
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Iāve read the story too! So it must be true!
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Still not the Mandela effect just becuase you say it is.
If my experience happens TODAY, itās not the Mandela effect.
If I remember that I got bit by a dog at my grandmas house 20 years ago, and she still lives in that house and I still know the addressā¦ just because itās memory related, itās not the Mandela effect.
Go do some research before you use big words.
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Right?
The more people that post lies about rigged games, the more people will believe the game is rigged because they read it on the forums.
Itās a circle, and itās all the proof they can muster, but we have problems for not trusting them on faith.
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Yes? You called for me?
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Agreed. Iāve also played a lot and see those obvious patternsā¦ Like today no matter what or how well I play my opponent always counters me in every wayā¦ Iām at around 500 Legedend so Iām just saying that I know how to play. Iāve been playing since Betaā¦ Iāve tried playing with both my decks and top tier / net / streamer decksā¦ Same resultsā¦ Itās actually getting too obviousā¦ To the point where when I chose next deck I think to myself ājust not match me with this 1 counter class/deckā and there we go Iām matched against my 1 strong counter right the first gameā¦ When I havenāt seen this deck all day longā¦ Pure bs game if you ask meā¦
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Can anyone name a high ranked player/streamer that thinks the game is rigged by any chance? Just wondering.
If a high ranked player thinks the game is rigged, wouldnāt that suggest they donāt think they have real skill and that they are at the top solely because of a rigged system?
In a rigged system, we should expect to see people at the top and the people at the bottom of ranked equally complaining about it being rigged, no?
In a non-rigged system, we would expect to see very few people at the top claiming itās rigged and a disproportionate number of people at the bottom claiming itās rigged.
Guess which one we see.
Zeddy consistently hits legend in all game modes every season and he thinks itās pretty heavily rigged against him.
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From watching Zeddy, I always assumed he was being sarcastic. He always says weird things like that. For example, in pack opening he gets bad luck he says itās because he bad mouths Blizzard and if he gets good luck he says itās because they are supporting his stream. Heās genuinely being sarcastic to be funny.
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Kris o Five does, here is a video from a few years ago:
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