Theotar nerf leak

they are nerfing ice revenant too because dark knight is getting many cheap frost spells and dont want it ending games way too soon

he nerf to Ice Revenant might appear out of place, but it feels like a necessary one in a world where Death Knight has access to multiple cheap Frost spells (Horn of Winter in particular). In testing we were frequently seeing Ice Revenant’s game-ending size on turn 4, and the card was simply overshadowing many of the new and exciting things going on in the set.

A 5 mana 3/3 would blow too if you built your decks around more than a handful of cards.

This you?

Neither Murloc Holmes or Coilfang Constrictor are anything like Identity Theft. You are making an argument that those 2 cards are similar to identity theft. The only similarity is that one has a choose 3 from hand while the other could be anything. That is like saying, “An Apple is like an Orange, cause they are both fruit.”

Also, to say I am moving the goal post, this is your first response to my problem with the card. The goal post was set at my first post, you have since spent the time trying to defend the card going down a rabbit hole in a vain effort of justification for the card.

He’s not even playable at 5 Mana in most decks.

He’s one of the least offensive massively run cards that has ever existed as far as his actual performance is concerned.

People run him because of how infuriating it is to lose to the deck blizzard allows to exist, not because he’s actually a strong card that is greatly helping your win rate.

You are by far the most dishonest poster I’ve ever seen. Boreas made a statement and you countered the statement with a single argument. Not only did I refute the argument and educate you, but I was deliberate in stating that “all classes can do SOMETHING LIKE IDENTITY THEFT” and that something in particular was the argument YOU made - look at opponent’s hand.

At no point in time, ever, did I say that the options were GOOD META CARDS. I only stated a single argument in rejection of your assertion. You were the one who had a hidden goal post that the cards “must be good meta cards so that everyone is using it”.

It’s nothing like “An Apple is like an Orange, cause they are both fruit.” It’s more like “An Apple has seeds like an Orange” when you make a claim analogous to “other fruits don’t get to have seeds like apples”. You made a mistake, refuse to admit your mistake, even when asking to be educated on said mistake, and now in order to save face you move goal posts analogous to “well yeah, but apples taste like apples and not oranges and most people eat apples instead”.

You’re dishonest. You know it. I know it. And anyone following the conversation can see it too.

Just man up and admit you were wrong. Identity Theft giving information so you can see Theotar well Boreas’s argument. Your argument against that SPECIFIC INTERACTION was about how other classes can’t do that. I argued against that specific interaction and you moved the goal posts to something else completely off topic to that specific interaction.

There’s no harm in admitting you’re wrong. But moving goal posts to save face is such a lame move.

Which is untrue.

Then why even suggest is as an option?

They are completely different interactions just like apples are complete different fruit. The comparison I made is adequate and appropriate.

You are hyperbolic at best in your responses of what is comparable. That is being disingenuous which can be construed as being dishonest. Anyone can see it, just admit you are reaching in trying to make a point.

Which still remains, they can not do what identity theft can do. They can do something slightly similar. Again, apples to oranges.

Below is my first response to boreas. Second was asking when you can see it. You gave me 2 options, both of them suck and never get played. Give me a viable option and I will admit I am wrong. Because as of right now, my first response to Boreas stands.

Introspection is the first part of realization.

depends on your deck. If they stole sire then its probably all over unless you can steal it back. if your playing something like curse lock is probably just a meh.

I don’t understand why they haven’t thought of reworking the effect to discard a card from both players’ hands instead of exchanging them. It would solve the main gripe people have with the card while also maintaining its properties of hand disruption.

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That’s what I’m saying. If it “depends” on x, y, or z, it’s not a game ender

Theo is only game ending if you’re either a guff druid with a big böner for big sire D, or if you’re a Quest Priest. Maybe ping mage as well. The end.

All other decks - yeah it feelsbad, but definitely not game over.