Rigged match making system

For the past few days I was playing OTK mage and the majority of the matches I was facing was either against face hunter of face demon hunter, which I’m pretty weak against.
I got fed up with the “meta” and I switched to spell mage, that utterly dumps on agro and is fairly weak against ramp druids or value warlocks/warriors. Guess what I keep matching over and over again. For the past 15 games, I fought face hunter once.
This is not a simple case of “it’s just the draw of the luck”. No, no, for some games I was waiting for up to 5 minutes…

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Yes the sistem its made by naga which curently live on Mariana Trench . Also they drink only orc blood and eats only elven meat .

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You can search for the keyword ‘rigged’ and find a myriad of topics concerning this topic. It’s quite the popular theory, in fact.

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Don’t really need another thread on this. There is one that is over 2k in posts and plenty of others to read and contribute to.

Here’s one.

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I’m not sure this is true. At your rank it may be due to misplays by your opponents but I do not believe this is correct from a matchup standpoint, so your theory your games are fixed does not make sense since you actually should not be favored against face hunter.

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I gave up on this argument years ago, but the Op is not wrong that you can make any deck you want and the first match will almost always be as close to a 50% win matchup as possible. I have performed that particular experiment hundreds of times and the results have been the same over 90% of the time. It is exceedingly rare that I have made a brand new deck or even revised a deck (ie: change one card) without completely changing the class of opponent I receive as well as the frequency of seeing the direct counter to your revision. It ain’t fire, but it’s awfully smoky.

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Do we have any idea how many Blizzard employees might be privy to the MMR algorithm?

Is it likely a multi-billion dollar company would risk the exposure of rigging their card game, considering the consequences said company might face?

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That’s not what OP is saying though. OP said they’re getting matched against counter-decks, which by definition aren’t decks that have a “close to 50% win matchup” with your deck. But since you’ve run the experiment, I’m sure you can share your data with us.

Of course, you probably didn’t write anything down (why would you?) which would mean you’re based off memory entirely. Memory which can easily be affected by expectation biases which cause confirmatory evidence to be remembered more vividly than evidence which disagrees with your posited hypothesis.

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Remembering the hits and forgetting the misses.

Surprisingly, no one of this particular persuasion seems to properly record their data. :roll_eyes:

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I am constantly surprised by the pervasiveness of confirmation bias.

And for that matter, how little regarded occam’s razor is in the face of confirmation bias.

What invisible elves pull the strings, OP? And why? What do these invisible elves gain by making such a convoluted systen?

The much easier solution would be to just match you randomly against someone your MMR. Hmmm…

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The thinking is usually that MM puts decks versus their counter (how is this possible (every deck facing their counter)) in an attempt to influence players to make purchases in trying to perform better. I think.

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The system waits for a counter, but only after you’ve won too many times being randomly matched. The OP mentions waiting 5 mins or longer for a match, indicating an unsatisfied algorithm, waiting for the counter deck to queue up.

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He also can’t spell “brain cells” in another thread.

Reading through other posts recently, I take his assertions and recollections with a large pinch of salt.

I would love to know more about this. Wonder if you could analyze this data from HSReplay.

And now we can go back to the other thread about data and assumptions, lol.

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Yes, everyone please stop posting here and refer to this topic if you’d like to further discuss this topic. This a way the discussion isn’t broken up.

It wasn’t a counter deck though. The counter deck could just as well have been the face hunter which the OP does not know is actually an unfavorable matchup.

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The theory also works in reverse.

If I don’t want to play vs heavy secret using classes I switch out a card for a secret killer. If I don’t want to play Jade Druid I swap a Geist in. There will inevitably come a time when I wish to trade these cards for something more useful, and you guessed it, the moment I do the VERY next match up will be secret mage / Jade Druid.

I wish I was joking.

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Then He is probably wrong.
I haven’t ever bothered taking notes on this game.
But; I do have one peculiar observation. All of you know that I only recently hit Legend for the first time a few months ago.
Today I hit Legend for the fourth consecutive time. I have never been at Rank 1 full stars and not faced bomb warrior. Every month, every final match, has been Bomb warrior vs. Aluneth mage. Is it winnable? Sure. Is it likely? Erm…
So; draw your own conclusions. I don’t believe this game purposely cheats anyone, but I do think there is something peculiar about the matching…

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Until data is posted in a reviewable manner for all to see, conjecture remains conjecture. Note I am not being dismissive but that’s the truth. Don’t expect people to take your word for it. :smiling_face:

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Why would it be unlikely? If Bomb Warrior is particularly popular, then the odds of facing it would be pretty high regardless of how good or bad of a matchup it is for your deck. And since you claim not to have written anything down, how would you know how often you ran into Bomb Warriors in your D5-Legend climb?

I was at D1 full stars twice this season. First matchup was against aggro DH, which I lost, and second matchup was against Face Hunter, which I won. Neither deck is particularly unusual, and I faced both plenty of times on my climb there. You’re basically describing an amusing coincidence, but it doesn’t really prove anything unless you’ve already committed yourself to this “rigged” narrative.

But if you’re already committed, then any pattern can be justified as confirmation of the narrative.

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I think you misunderstood what I intended to convey.
What I was speaking about is: Is Aluneth mage vs. Bomb warrior winnable?
It is, but it is very likely you will lose. That’s what I was trying to say. Sorry for any confusion:)
And; again, I don’t think Blizzard purposely cheats anyone, but I do think there is more to the matching than they admit. I mean four consecutive months, and I face bomb warrior each time for the final match? How likely is that? The odds have to be pretty steep.

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