Random or rigged?

I stop when they nerf it :wink:

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Ever notice a Battlecry Quest Shaman always has an Evil Totem on turn 2?

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Wow, someone’s working overtime to earn their buck, lol.

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InfinityMin1 is doing God’s work by educating you salty lot on logic, scientific method and critical thinking. He will be paid in Heaven. :smiley:

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How dare you (greta voice) comparing infinity with god, he lack logic and the way he reason isn’t always right, tho I have nothing against him as he is just Another paperwork at work.

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Where am I comparing him with god? Do you know what “doing God’s work” even means? :smiley:

It’s rigged. Those who still deny are the ones getting advantage from it, blizzard fanboys and employees or just plain blind

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You need to be clear on what you mean, because it can be looked at 2ways :wink:, and yes I know a thing or 2 more then you, call me rhymescheme supreme u know what I mean?

I really hope this is irony. Otherwise, my condolences :smiley:

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Ofc it’s irony, the kid just woke up and ate too much sugar and now going wild, give him a 15min or so the effect will fade away and he will come back to his senses.

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You play ress priest, and lecture others on how HS isnt a skill based game?

Iv played quest shaman, and iv noticed how frequently i DONT have Evil Totem on turn 2… How about that?

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The usual retort to that is “because you’re f2p and Blizz rigs games in favor of paying players.” If you say you’re not f2p, they call you a Blizzard shill and smugly assume that’s a winning argument.

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Can confirm as someone who played Quest Shaman for a solid two months last year and recently picked it up again, you are not guaranteed Evil Totem every game. Glad we cleared up this misunderstanding :slightly_smiling_face:.

Hitchens’ Razor. That which is proposed against the status quo without meaningful evidence can be dismissed with an equal amount (or lack thereof) of evidence. Otherwise you give too much credit to conspiracy theories and ideas that don’t deserve it in the first place.

If it’s obvious to the naked eye, then it should be easy to pluck some random users from HSReplay’s database, analyze their gameplay, and prove beyond reasonable doubt that the game is rigged. Until the “game is rigged” side takes the first step in providing meaningful evidence, the burden of proof will remain squarely on them.

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I wouldnt call myself a f2p player no… A paying casual is more fitting i would say…

The absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence. Just because you have what appears to be a perfectly “fair” matchmaking system on the surface does not mean that there is some level of manipulation behind the scenes. It just means that your good at hiding your rigging is all.

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Said Donald Rumsfeld about Iraqi WMDs. How did that turn out, again?

So you have a system so good at hiding that it cannot be detected through statistical analysis of massive amounts of game data… but can be clearly spotted by some randos just playing a handful of games? That is literally the argument made to justify tinfoil-hat level conspiracy theories.

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It doesn’t matter seriously NOONE can prove one way or another if the game is rigged or not. What we can say is this…

1: EA/Blizzard stated months ago that they had an AI algorithm that could put players against certain players that had a way higher chance of winning because of deck types etc. This is fact not fiction.

2: Game companies are getting more and more creative in the ways they get money from their players. We all know that most gamers who get mad because they lose will spend money to try and get better. So put the above in with this statement and guess what RIGGED system.

3: Do not think for 1 second that Blizzard cares about fairness for it doesn’t as no game company in today’s world does. Blizzard is so greedy they made BG’s pay to win, and in WoW not only do you pay for base game AND a monthly sub they have a shop for vanity items.

4: Most humans can’t accept that a game is rigged because that would mean that them winning any given match was determined or in part helped by the computer AI and not them. Most human ego’s can’t handle that so they refuse to accept the fact that game companies do in fact rig their systems to benefit them.

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Read above the algorithm doesn’t cheat cards etc but pits opponents against other decks it knows you have little chance of winning against. No amount of game data could ever prove that for it is determined before the game even starts. Also in games with total RNG it can and does choose cards to help you get out of sticky situations and no amount of game data can prove that as well.

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It might not be, but it is more than enough reason to dismiss a claim. I could go on about how there’s a mystical all-knowing and invisible teapot orbiting the sun between Earth and Mars, but until I provide any evidence for this then there is no reason for you to take me seriously. Again, if this weren’t the case then we would be giving way more credit to conspiracy theories and nutcase arguments than they deserve.

Can I get a source on this, from EA/Blizzard themselves?

Except there’s no reason to believe that the profits of a rigged-beyond-MMR system could outweigh the cost of R&D, implementation, hiding a multinational conspiracy against the playerbase, and the risk of loss if the playerbase found out. You’re skipping about five steps of logic and assuming more than should be necessary in order to believe there’s rigging against the playerbase.

Most humans also can’t accept that the things they view are just random and not because of some fault in RNG or rigged AI. Except this is a well-documented psychological phenonemon, unlike what you’re claiming. See: Patternicity.

Again, source?

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