Random or rigged?

This is very amusing.

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Well them “Proplayers” you talk about in my opinion are trash why do I say this? Because these are the people who fail at other games generally, HS is for them because of it’s RNG. Would I ever compete if I had full collection like them? Not in a million years pall, This game is just not for people like me who can predict plays, as I was an experienced competetive player in wow arena and csgo etc where u need to learn how to predict, mabey that’s why people blamed me for cheating when I saw there every move. But no grandmaster thingy for me, I pass thank u.

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Just playing the same game he plays here. He dismisses everything as “anectodal evidence” and conspiracy theories. Let’s just ignore that observing a pattern across hundreds of games doesn’t simply make it false. Just dismissing it that way because it’s not crude data from deck trackers (because they don’t have an elaborate data track on this kind of information anyway) is the typical fanboy reaction - which is obviously moronic. Just notice he quotes every post with the same kind of reply, adding no valuable information whatsoever. He’s always dribbling about the same stuff. 2k posts full of absolutely nothing.

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Zero posts.

Conspiracy theory.

Troll.

So if these pro players in HS are trash, what does that make you, someone who presumably doesn’t hit Legend on the regular and hasn’t ever put their name on the board in any game, much less HS?

I swear this reads like a copypasta. Are you real right now? :rofl:

Sure they are “proplayers”, well I can’t hit legend when I don’t have any good deck :rofl::rofl: besides I don’t spend a penny on packs or bundles, u know how long it takes to get dust & Gold? Put my name on the board? Explain.

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As a player who admittedly can’t predict 90% of my opponent’s cards and who recently hit Wild Legend with an untiered deck (that is, a deck worse than the top twenty two decks listed on tempostorm and a deckthat doesn’t even show up on HSReplay), I shudder to think of what kind of garbage you shackle yourself with such that you never hit Legend.

Doesn’t mean a lot when the most competitive decks i nthe meta are budget-friendly :/.

“Put your name on the board”, “make a name for yourself”, etc. It means “Doing well enough that people in the community would know you by name”.

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Wait you think people who play HS actually are good gamers? Bwahaha. So you or someone made it to legend with a bunch of bad cards now all of a sudden ya some big shots? Give me a break…

I been putting my name out to be known, and guess what not in just 1 game, I do it for a living. As for HS well it’s what it is, it’s not like people can ctrl the game, you play as you are dealt.

And ofc it means alot when someone don’t have the dust or gold to make the cards needed, let me see you play with a deck I put together and let’s see how far u will go… nowhere few ranks that’s it.

Just don’t act like this is a game of skill like most games out there, it’s a fiesta man.

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When did I say that? All I said was that if the pros are trash and you can’t even hit Legend, that certainly says something about your skills.

Yah, sure.

You mean you don’t have the dust for the most basic of meta decks? How much do you squander on homebrews? o_O.

I’ll admit that HS isn’t as player-dependent as similar ones like MtG, but there’s definitely a skill element (hence the reason some people suck and others go pro). Ignoring that goes to show how much you actually know about the game despite being psychic.

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Look I don’t know your history, but in my world a good gamer is good at most games ye, HS is just a different type of game than the normal ones u catch what I mean?
Say whatever his name is the kripparian or smth who plays different games, I wouldn’t call him super pro but he is good at most games sure and that’s what I mean most big names on HS has never been good at other games, some mabey but majority not a chance. Just because someone hits legend doesn’t mean a thing when the same guy can’t even strafe in n out of fire in another game :rofl:(true fact)

:rofl: if you only knew.

In the past I bought cards for dust that I saw as my type of play, might not have been the smartest choice but I don’t really care, I wanted to have them and that’s that as I didn’t know about hsreplay n stuff like that due Im new at the game.

The skill element is so small compared to the usual, putting minions with a good deathrattle before the opponent is about o wipe the board is not something that most people think about, cause if they would I don’t know why I keep meeting them :rofl: and more like this example to me common sense, i don’t wanna go tru all the examples but you would underatand what I mean and the skill of hs moves u make n think about right, I mean U are one hella good player right? Legend with bad cards.

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I mean since Im new at the game, Im not even 5month’s in, and Im close to diamond, gotta give me some props, never watched a stream, or guides how to play, some dude on friendlist told me about hsreplay and I saw few cards for priest so made a deck close to one of the decks there and thats what I play with untill I get better cards, may I add that I only play priest, I dusted all other cards except neutral, I find other classes to be boring :confused: even tho I know I need more classes if Im gonna be competetive, u can be with one class but at the top with every game u need few classes to switch between else u can’t really keep up.

Yet no 3rd party program is even close to 100% accurate period. Please tell me HOW these 3rd party programs get game data? Sure in the hell is not from me or many others and it is NOT from Blizzard.

So please tell me just how accurate these 3rd party programs are? Oh ya you CAN’T…

Go away Blizzard FANBOI.

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HSReplay gets data from players using Hearthstone Deck Tracker, which admittedly does create the risk for bias.

ViciousSyndicate, on the other hand, gets card data based on your opponent’s deck, which is much less likely to have self-selection bias. There is a question of how accurate their detection algorithms are, but given that a) most players tend to play the same decks, and b) each deck archetype has certain clear patterns of play, it’s not that difficult to figure out what your opponent’s deck/draw is after a few rounds if you have enough data. Which VS generally does.

You can find more information on how VS collects data here: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/drr/faq-data-reaper-report/

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You doin okay bud?

Sure they’re not 100% accurate, but when Blizz has showed data in the past sites like HSReplay and ViciousSyndicate have matched theirs pretty closely. Even if your sample size doesn’t compose a majority of the population, as long as it is large enough it can become a very close approximation of the population.

Simple. They collect data from users. Sure there’s an element of selectivity bias to this, but not to the point where 3rd party software is untrustworthy. Besides, based on the attitude of some people in this thread, I’m not sure some players would trust Blizzard even if they provided their own data :joy:.

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Believers keep on prattling on their “anecdotal evidence”. Doesn’t prove nor disprove rigging.

Non-believers keep on pushing their 3rd party stats that amount up only to win and play rates. Doesn’t prove nor disprove rigging.

Basically, nothing is good enough for anyone. And that’s how you’ve all been rigged from the start. Stat nerds will, of course, require substantial data for this.

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Anecdotal when it happens 70% of the time… gtfo lol… just stop.
Everyone who complains about Tempo Rogue that’s true, anecdotal or not, TRUTH is TRUTH… also, something artificial =D

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LOLOLOLOL… reddit, where the group think is EVEN STRONGER… no thanks, you nerds ruined that space a LOOOONG time ago. I avoid it… /pol/ is still top kek.

A N E C D O T A L, mofo, do you speak it???
lolol, j/k… I’m with you 100%, my fren.
Also, stop playing ReEEEEEEs Priest, it is very mean =P

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Why in deck like Highlander to single limit cards always drop on cue?

Last Match was a Highlander Druid for example.

Turn 6 Emerald Explorer =P
Turn 9 Queen Alexstraza “Red Alert Red Alert”

How does Queen Alexstraza show up on 9 SO COMMON?!

How does Altruis always show up in the first half of the deck?

It any of you were around for Lich Queen Jaina and Blood Reaver Gul’dan and DK Rexxar…You know what I am talking about.

Oh its their 1 / 30 legendary cost turn…do they have it? THEY DO!

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Probably because you’re all but guaranteed to draw through at least half your deck by turn 9?

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