Druid is fine not overpowered at all 4-5 decks/class have simular win rates if not higher.
People just need to adapt or get good.
Druid is fine not overpowered at all 4-5 decks/class have simular win rates if not higher.
People just need to adapt or get good.
Iām killing it post-patch on Druid, Iām like 70-80% win rate. pre-patch it was spottyā¦Iād do 8of10, then lose 8of10ā¦Iām solid now I just canāt beat DH and Warlock (each only 6% of pairing). Iām owning Warrior for the first time in a long time and about 50/50 against pally (also only 6%). Iām mostly seeing Mages and DKāsā¦Iām also totally owning Mages. Iāll play Druid until I get my 1k wins
Go for it but dks dh shamans and priest all trash druid.
I have a winning percentage against Shaman, creeping closer to 50% against DK post-patch (which means iām beating them more than losing to them now) but yes Priest are still tough. Iām paired with priest at 7% I do lose more than I win against them, canāt recall the percentage. Iām not playing a cookie cutter druid taunt deck though
Your grave error is even graver comrade. Itās a specific opponent. Of course anything is weak against specific counters.
Iām killing it post-patch on Druid, Iām like 70-80% win rate. pre-patch it was spottyā¦Iād do 8of10, then lose 8of10ā¦Iām solid now I just canāt beat DH and Warlock (each only 6% of pairing). Iām owning Warrior for the first time in a long time and about 50/50 against pally (also only 6%). Iām mostly seeing Mages and DKāsā¦Iām also totally owning Mages. Iāll play Druid until I get my 1k wins
At what ranks were you when you were doing all that?
Diamond 6 is where Iām at. Iāve never been past diamond 1ā¦Iāve been so close but I play a deck until I reach 1000k wins, I dont play the flavor of the month and I also play decks built with cards I find āfunāā¦I do not play cookie cutter decks.
My druid is 479/1000 so yeah itās obvious I never really played druid, I dont even think I have unlocked class cards on rogue and DH yetā¦but I do have 1k wins on 5 or 6 classes.
Believe or not I died to Concierge Druid on a turn when I had pre-nerfed Dr. Boom with 4 Unkilliax by Brann on board, most of them on full Health and with Reborn (with some Divine Shield). I had 40+ Health and Armor in total as well but still died. That was turn 7 or 8 or so.
Besides Ramp, Druidās Spell Damage and 2-Cost copying card are also an issue. 1-Cost Spell Damage locations (actually very, very strong for being only 1-Cost) and 1-Cost Chia Drake Minis with 1-Cost Go with the Flow, and a couple of Swipe can actually wipe out pretty much all minions on board. And multiple and multiple rounds of copied Seabreeze Chalice to the face.
Years ago, perhaps the only way that Druid can get Spell Damage was the old 9-Cost Malygos with +5 Spell Damage, but now Druid has too many unfairly low-cost and efficient Spell Damage options.
Well maybe theyāll fix it in a month or whatever. Until then enjoy! Donāt forget to pre purchase the next set of totally balanced and playtested set of cards!
The devs never once said that. Taken directly from the patch notes
Dev Comment: Concierge Dragon Druid is a deck that can follow-up early tempo plays with lots of burst damage from hand, sometimes a little too early in the game. The deck is very powerful, but we like that itās a new deck and that the metagame has been adapting to it, instead of folding
They simply said it was a new deck, acknowledging players came up with something new in the expansion that never existed in previous ones. They never said anything about creating it to exist the way it does.
You have to read between the lines of that statement. Thatās exactly what they said but in a round about way. Thereās no way they didnāt see this deck becoming a thing and know how powerful it was. It would be like they didnāt see infinite Zilliax was going to be a thing which is ludicrous.
If they didnāt see any of this i am not sure what to say about their process.
Druid is fine not overpowered at all 4-5 decks/class have simular win rates if not higher.
People just need to adapt or get good.
Stats can be misleading. Even if the winrates look close on paper that doesnt account for the polarization in specific matchups and how that factors in.
For example if druid is losing 30%/70% vs hand buff pali and winning 70%/30% vs warrior the average winrate is 50% still.
Polarized metas can look reasonable but it is still unhealthy and not fun when the spreads are like this. There should be a sense of agency and a fairly balanced winrates across all decks or its unhealthy for the game overall
Diamond 6 is where Iām at. Iāve never been past diamond 1ā¦Iāve been so close but I play a deck until I reach 1000k wins, I dont play the flavor of the month and I also play decks built with cards I find āfunāā¦I do not play cookie cutter decks.
My druid is 479/1000 so yeah itās obvious I never really played druid, I dont even think I have unlocked class cards on rogue and DH yetā¦but I do have 1k wins on 5 or 6 classes.
I have more than 100 wins on only 2 classes. I never play Standard with the intention to lose so itās never easy for me to have very long win streaks, because it goes purely by MMR now (a change from about a month ago) so if you manage to have a good win/loss ratio the difficulty goes through the roof so youāre more or less guaranteed to lose more the more you ā¦win.
I think the combo would be tolerable if mistah vistah didnāt exist. But they can effectively do their combo 3 times with him. Thatās not okay.
edit Oh and Tidal Pupil, make that 4-5 times.
50% of my games this morning have been combo druid. Iām sorry, but this type of non-interactive deck is insufferable. I even stole one of their drinks and they just generated more with the pupil. This isnāt fun. Itās just a solitaire deck all over again.
Polarized metas can look reasonable but it is still unhealthy
I agree that this is possible.
Stats can be misleading.
I disagree with this. Polarization is a stat, youāre trying to argue against stats with stats.
Stats are never misleading, itās just people being stupid by either making fake stats or not understanding what real stats mean.
Iām hopeful they delete concierge from the game soon.
50% of my games this morning have been combo druid. Iām sorry, but this type of non-interactive deck is insufferable. I even stole one of their drinks and they just generated more with the pupil. This isnāt fun. Itās just a solitaire deck all over again.
Yep they messed up. I think itās combined with the fact the ālegendaryā card āaccommodatingā it is not even a ā¦legendary. At least make it a bit harder for them to find it or make it possible for them to lose the card like Sif because Sif was correctly a legendary so it wasnāt found ~100% of the time after 5-6 rounds.
For example if druid is losing 30%/70% vs hand buff pali and winning 70%/30% vs warrior the average winrate is 50% still.
Absolutely true
Polarized metas can look reasonable but it is still unhealthy and not fun when the spreads are like this. There should be a sense of agency and a fairly balanced winrates across all decks or its unhealthy for the game overall
I donāt know about other people, and I donāt know how I would go about finding out, but in my case, this is false
I enjoy highly polarized metas and thrive in them. Itās the best meta to pull out a tier 14 deck and jump the ladder with a surprise factor. Also, thereās this feeling when you play a 30% winrate matchup, youāre fighting to win, doing your best, experimenting left and right to find the play which improves your winrate to 33%. itās a challenge, and I like it MUCH more than fighting to win a 49-51% matchup - I feel like I have agency and that if I play better Iāll have a better winrate and improve my rank. If I donāt make it, oh well, doesnāt matter, I wasnāt even supposed to.
Like, how do I know, when the matchup is so close, if I did a mistake or did the coin just flip tails this game? I donāt. For the rest of the meta, that matchup is a coin flip for me, and I feel like my agency is 0.
Yea i guess its up to personal preference. I prefer matchups close to 50/50 because for me it feels like my decisions matter more and that i have a chance to win in every game
Stats are never misleading, itās just people being stupid by either making fake stats or not understanding what real stats mean
I should have said stats can be used in a misleading way. Both intentionally or because of ignorance