Mage and warlock ruined the expansion

No im not new to the game but its clear that you are if you believe you need skill as a priest but go ahead and live in your own imaginary word and keep playing your pathetic class as you are clearly to simple minded to win with something that requires a you to have a brain

Priest is, of nothing else, the weakest class since release (not taking wild into account). Then, by logic, It follows that If someone can succesfully play priest, then they must need to have the skill to compensate for a poor deck.

If you wanna see the class that carries itself, look at DH and Paladin

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Priest have never been the weakes in neither wild or standard.No it is not logical to say someone who plays pries have skill as they always had access to cards with broken effects that no other class even get close to the same advantages.

I seen both Demon hunter and paladins and they are not a big issue

This isn’t up to debate. Priest is by a WIDE margin, the class with less time on top spots, tiers 1 and 2, in standard.

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Absolutely true. Neither Priest nor Mage is ever allowed to be tier one, these days.
if they are tier two, they get nerfed before midpoint of every expansion for a very long time now.

Could you elaborate? I love demon hunter. :frowning:

I don’t want to pile on, but I am fairly certain the data shows that Priest, by a wide margin, has had the least tier 1/top of the meta decks since launch. I believe Shaman is also squarely in second.

Its actualy Mage with least top decks way before Shaman.
Also funny that you say both Demon Hunter and Paladins are no big issue when no other classes have been more times on top than them.

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Clearly it is up for debate as you are delusional if you believe that either that or you just pretending as you know you are wrong. The truth is it always had broken cards with cheap abillities that requires 0 skill to use taht no other class have ever had and thats not up for debate

Well i never said it had 1st spot as im quessing it full of those tryhard decks at top that kills you round 4-5 but that dont change the fact that priest have the most broken cards in general

No no my dude: You’re completely wrong. I Will link the thread, and the my comentary on the best and worst classes.

Priest isn’t in the top spot.
Neither is It near It.
It’s the undisputed, worst decks ever class.

It’s literally not up to debate. Priest is the worst class in the game by a WIDE margin

I’m being lazy, but I know someone somewhere displayed this in a chart… maybe VS?

Yes it is up to debate. No priest isnt worst class as it have the most broken cards in the entire game that is not up to debate on the other hand

I’m quite literally showing you the numbers. Those broken cards you talk about rarely, Very Very rarely are “broken” enough to make Priests good.

Hence the Unicorn Priest meme

Not sure my Shadow Priest agrees with that with all the wins it piles on for me but sure given the history in class nerfs lets keep it a secret.

Im all too happy to keep winning in secret with it leave Priest alone.

Aggro shadow priest is preeeeetty good, that’s no Secret. Priest has good decks, specially in wild, where those never left.

Still won’t make overall priest less dumpster tier.

Didnyou know Paladin(the class most frequently on the top spots) enjoyed more time in those spots than Mage AND priest together, since VS started recording the meta?

That’s How bad those guys are, overall.

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I mean yeah I’ve done raza priest but I think I can remember what felt like A thousand warrior and past mage decks and odd pally, two strong gvg and barrens and sw postnerf secret pally and strong hand buff pally.
And pally still has one of the highest general climbing winrates at least for public gold with like twice the win edge on 56% wr pally and 55% quest lock in the free range vs 53%.

But I would consider publicly available netdecks of quest shaman in early refinement as it seems to run natural anti synergy cards that don’t do much other than mess up the 3 mana 2/3 that only draws A elemental if you draw nature.

And I’m just really honestly not sure if breaking that card with 1 mana do nothings prequest is right for that deck in such a aggro meta.

Usually I don’t try to tweak standard but imo quest shaman is one of those decks with obvious cards to try tweaking and improving and I did my part to add 3 mana 3/4 discover a cards to mine and dropped the 1 mana draw a overload card for the tradable card that converts all overload into damage.

I don’t usually try to improve Standard net decks, but it felt like I’ve at least found good success changing those cards out since public lists of quest shaman don’t feel 100% refined, maybe 80% imo.

But I think adding the discover a spell can actually be better than drawing as it allows for you to aoe or potentially discover more flexible cards to use that would be risky in such a polarized meta.
Sure there’s two shaman decks in like hsreplays t2 on free data for at least the free gold data. Not sure if it’s a deck that improves consistently with player skill or deck tweaking, but there’s a lot of decks that can roll over the netdeck variants.
Tweaks can just turn it from greeding quest value to holding stronger against aggro but standard questlock (which also has the 2nd best climbing hsreplay gold winrate, 56% secret pal, 55% questlock, other decks/ele shaman 51-54%, 52-53% wr quest shaman)

It’s just weird how after people complain about every deck being aggro, the one deck that can play A 8 mana 3 damage aoe is seen as broken even when other classes can semi easily otk between like 5-6 mana.

I guess to be fair it’s base netdeck dies 50 50 with aggro but you can tweak it to handle aggro better, but it still tends to have a warlock weakness.

Sos clown fiestas and the healing just means even if you do 50 combined damage the warlock will heal to full health or complete setup combo to otk you just a turn too late. Still, there’s decks with better overall gold wrs when quest shamans warlock matchup is thrown in, but it’s pretty strong anti aggro. I think secret pally still have twice the general win margin for gold wr off hsreplay though. Quest shaman just can be built to harder counter aggro in aggro meta, but dies to warlock.

Honestly can’t stand to play against warlock or mage currently. Just isn’t fun mate…

You didnt give me any literal numbers you just mumbled something about a tier list. And yes they are still broken by far when they can make infinite revive minios by keep copying minion that normaly arent a problem by themself but when you just keep making aminion that never disappear it dont matter if you use spells or minions against them as you eventually die fromfatigue and even by some miracle you get rid of the infinite revive/copy the usually have their BS make a copy of enemy deck or the fully heal card(dont remmeber the name) or some BS mindcontrol so even if you think you got a card to counter priest it just get taken away

priest never been in dumpster tier alway in broken tier