To be fair, it needs to be Blizzard themselves advertising it as a collectible card game.
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I’m not reaching for anything. The developers have referred to this game a a CCG more times than I can count and because Blizzard’s lawyer says differently you think that somehow puts me in my place.
“more times than i can count”
shows wikipedia.
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That’s only because I cannot post from the old forums when the developers actually posted on here.
But if they no longer refer to it as such, that kinda does grant your request, doesn’t it?
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Oh so because they stopped they are somehow blameless for players believing in their misleading remarks? You guys go right ahead and defend unscrupulous behavior. Maybe blizz will reward you someday. But, i doubt it.
well your problem, as you said many times over, was false advertising and blizzard calling it a ccg, neither of which happened. now youre on about an employee post lol…sure, youre not reaching!
an employee making a post isnt advertising. im done here. youre just wrong but wont accept it. youre like the fish that keeps flopping around and doesnt understand hes caught until the fisherman stomps his head.
And what course of action do you suggest, regarding that?
You said Blizzard shouldn’t advertise it as a Collectible Card Game. Apparently, they were way ahead of us on that one.
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I’m glad you’re done.
@Wardrum. Probably because someone pointed out that truth in advertising is a thing.
What course of action do I suggest? Make it more collectible by allowing us to have the cards as they were printed.
ok but who gets those cards, everyone or just people who opened them orginally?
I think that players should get the cards they have collected. Of course i could see allowing players to buy the cards they do not have as others have said that not monetizing this type of format would be a hurdle for incentive.
That’s not true. Anyanyone who would try to play an errata’d card as it originally was printed on a tournament will quickly discover that. Even if this was to happen with Kitchen Table Magic, the person responsable would be accused of cheating and just trying to abuse the system because he doesn’t want to play by the rules (and before you try to comment on this, how would you feel if you played a game where you found out that while everyone was playing the official rules, one of your opponents was playing by house rules he neglected to mention?).
But if you want the original cards pre-nerf, not to be used in games, google them. I’m sure you’ll be able to find pictures of them. There, problem solved.
My neighbors play MTG without any forbidden cards and they are who I got the idea from. They have an entire group that participates as well as an online community. So it exists and I think it would be fun here as well.
I mean in today’s culture, We have Flaming Hot Cheetos. We have Da’ Bomb Beyond Insanity hot sauce. Why shouldn’t We have a format that allows play of all the cards in their original state?
Even if it were a “Sandbox” where you could only play with friends and there were no tournaments, I think it might be fun. I know that my friends love playing MTG this way.
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man we cant even get an auto squelch implemented in the game what you are asking is so far out of the realm of possibility I am surprised you would even ask.
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I’m a hopeless optimist, I guess.
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What I don’t understand is… you keep saying lots of people play MtG with their ‘original cards’…
But I mean… that’s only allowed amongst friends - and what’s more, your friends are well within their rights to say ''uh, mate, that’s not what that card does anymore - it’s been nerfed/changed".
And they’d be completely fair and correct in saying so. If you want to play a game, you’ve got to follow the rules.
If the publisher changes those rules (because they’ve made a mistake, let’s say) then those are the new rules. The fact you own an old card is irrelevant, nobody wants to play with people who (intentionally) don’t follow the rules.
I mean, take loads of really old MtG cards for example. They use rules that literally do not exist in the game anymore - so their rules have been changed so you can actually use them. Of course the cards haven’t changed, that’s impossible, but MtG card rules change all the time. If you wanted to use one of those ‘old cards as they were printed’ - you’d quite literally be playing a different game.
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All i can say to that is that they do it and so do plenty of other MTG players. I would play MTG, but I can barely play HS. MTG is like HS on steroids. Too much for me to keep up with, but my friends like the no holds bar format and play it a great deal. I do enjoy Wild as is, even though I lose to some insane plays,
but I have always thought that was the point. To my mind, this would just be an extension of that type of play. Extreme versions of practically everything sold exist today and so why not for HS too?
I’d say, because I don’t believe it actually is ‘extreme’ with your friends. And with that being the case, where do you draw the line on what is ok to ‘revert the changes’ and what’s not?
As I said, lots of very old MtG cards have obsolete rulings, they have rules which do not exist. You can’t play them as written, without reverting a load of other MtG rules (such as damage) - which would then make more modern cards unplayable. You can’t have the old cards ‘as written’ and the new cards existing in the same game.
That’s the thing, even ‘extreme’ things have to have some limitations or they just fall apart (let’s say, constant turn 1 victories for example) - so who decides on these limitations?
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The thing is that if your friends got serious in the context of the format they’re playing (that is, kitchen table MtG with no holds barred), they would literally all be playing the exact same deck. There wouldn’t be an “extreme” version of a bunch of different decks at the table, because the biggest, fastest, and best deck by a mile and a half would be a Storm variant using a playset each of Mox/Black Lotus/Ancestral Recall/Contract From Below/insert-wincon-of-choice. Things get insanely monotonous and games are over Turn 1.
While this obviously does not translate to HS because the game is several tiers lower in power, my point is that there is a stage where things become so powerful that games just aren’t fun anymore. I’m still on board with the implementation of a sandbox mode for friends etc, but I don’t think a “no holds barred” format wouldn’t be as idyllic as you think it’d be.
well, since i don’t play MTG, I only observe, I can’t speak with any real authority, but it seems like different decks are being used and yeah, the games do go really fast, but everyone seems to have a great time, though that could just be the alcohol lol:)